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Game still going? mothman movie won followed by pows return to Ft. Bliss. Lots of posts to catch up on. Sweetness Message # 94199 204.117.23.38 Sat Apr 19 21:38:12 2003 I20

LOL this is the longest bingo game btw i have yet to see...havent seen many though :) Stormy Message # 94198 66.19.140.76 Sat Apr 19 21:36:52 2003 O70

OT.... good to see you up and about... Hope you stay feeling better for a while... sarettah (VNWR Community Member) Message # 94197 66.140.68.101 Sat Apr 19 21:36:33 2003 I25

Well, I got interrupted and Ghost may have missed my response. Sigh. Stormy (94184) - I'm not sure what you mean. Can you elaborate on what you're saying, for me? Marie (94179) - I've been writing a lot of caning info lately. Also a nice essay about Japanese Bondage. And picked up another 500 feet of rope for next week. Old Tom (Vice President) Message # 94196 200.210.226.130 Sat Apr 19 21:36:10 2003 N35

re your post this morning the spam ********************************** lol... I forgot about that... well apparently, the site that sent it out is also the "supposed" credit card processor.... I caught that when they sent an automated reply to my post, it came from the same ip as the original message...lol.. So I have them nailed... I will not share what I sent them without copying anyone else... Suffice to say that it contained virtually every word I learned while I was in the Navy :) (and I learned a lot of good words) sarettah (VNWR Community Member) Message # 94195 66.140.68.101 Sat Apr 19 21:35:53 2003 N36

When dealing with the written word communication difficulties can be expected at time. We lack those crucial visual clues :) grrr this text stuff is hard! Stormy Message # 94194 66.19.140.76 Sat Apr 19 21:35:46 2003 N35

It's all OT's fault...as usual :) j/k sarettah (VNWR Community Member) Message # 94193 66.140.68.101 Sat Apr 19 21:33:27 2003 O70

Still good of you to stop in btw...re your post this morning the spam...lol that was some good stuff :) Stormy Message # 94192 66.19.140.76 Sat Apr 19 21:33:01 2003 B01

Hi Stormy :) Nopers, can't stay.... Was just typing an email to my son and decided to catch up on the board real quick... I am in between coloring easter eggs and playing board games right now (playing board games was not on my original schedule this morning...lol) So, I am about to head out of here for a while (until the youngest is abed, so about 11 or so cst) Anyway, I hope I didn't exascerbate the situation by piping up, just trying to play peacemaker... prbably should have left well enough alone... sarettah (VNWR Community Member) Message # 94191 66.140.68.101 Sat Apr 19 21:31:33 2003 B04

hmmmm finger banging babe's playtime Warning! Amateur babe slippery when wet!!! Wild finger banging pussy action! hmmm brain really isn't working today for some reason Marie (VNWR Community Member) Message # 94190 139.134.58.153 Sat Apr 19 21:31:14 2003 N32

Looks like I stepped in something... let me digress a moment. Ghost's post # 94177 was exactly how I took it. I was trolling, saying "there's a reason" without specifying the reason. Ghost was nice enough to play along, suggesting what that reason might be. I appreciate it! The confusion here is why I often note the message number in my reply. You'll often see me (assuming I'm actually here now!) reply like this: Ghost (94177) - Right On. Old Tom (Vice President) Message # 94189 200.210.226.130 Sat Apr 19 21:30:48 2003 G54

Single Sara and her slippery fingers Stormy Message # 94188 66.19.140.76 Sat Apr 19 21:30:48 2003 I26

Hi Sare :) just in time for text link fun can you stay? Stormy Message # 94187 66.19.140.76 Sat Apr 19 21:28:51 2003 I19

Gee...and here I thought the pronoun You was generic.......oh well I got things to do..have a nice one...... Ghost of Winter Message # 94186 4.41.198.235 Sat Apr 19 21:27:22 2003 O64

Good Evening VNWR :) Not to jump in and make a fool of myself, but it never stopped me before, so.... Voltar... I took ghost's post as meaning "getting OUR minds off the particular niche WE are promoting right now" and I think that is how he meant it. GOW... I think V took your post as being pointed directly at OT... where the "YOU' was OT is particular... I will be quiet now.... sarettah (VNWR Community Member) Message # 94185 66.140.68.101 Sat Apr 19 21:25:26 2003 N41

Ok i am looking at the two sets of descriptions...Voltars and Old Toms and they both work...i mean both seem clickable how can it work like that? Stormy Message # 94184 66.19.140.76 Sat Apr 19 21:25:22 2003 N37

Stormy...Maire..you are getting better at them..learning too..very cool... :) OT..nice exerpt too :) and explaining it also :) yep, the link others see to go to your site..is the first intital contact made with them..its there the filtering, targeting and sale pitches begin the illusion to bring them home..$$$... :) ok lets do...this niche/theme now... solo amateur gal mastrabating Voltar (President) Message # 94183 148.78.245.11 Sat Apr 19 21:24:59 2003 G55

stormy your descripts I can work with - I can usually change the wording a bit for most people but this guy kept using the description "Shemale babes posing naked" that's it... over and over again - hmm I think about 20 times so far, possibly more lol :)) Marie (VNWR Community Member) Message # 94182 139.134.58.153 Sat Apr 19 21:24:05 2003 N43

My thoughts, as it happens, flow differently from Voltar's. But y'all probably knew that. Asian, you say? Asian? That means rope. Asian hemp doesn't mean smoking I had a bunch more to type that I just thought of... but realized that each of these could be the site title. And then I realized why. I'm working NICHE. The site title itself, assuming you're following my philosophy of packaging, is the come-on, the attraction. The description is the clear possibly bald description of what you got. Put the two together, and if that's what they're seeking, you've nailed it. You've done a good job of targeting. That is, it's your most likely prospects which are most likely to click on such a bald description. Okay, another analogy in the next post... Old Tom (Vice President) Message # 94181 200.210.226.130 Sat Apr 19 21:23:37 2003 B11

I agree Stormy. I was replying to Old Tom's post.....I am sitting here scratching my head trying to figure out why he is jumping my shit for an innocent post asking if by the obvious did OT mean like making people think outside the niches they normally promote...not everyone promotes gangbangs...or asian..... Ghost of Winter Message # 94180 4.41.198.235 Sat Apr 19 21:23:33 2003 B02

OT - caning is a niche that is intriguing to say the least, its not something that I can promote because I really know nothing about it, however when you and Jojasa did the interview with me for that article I was writing I had responses from surfers that were remarkable and they thanked me for covering something that they were interested in... Thanks OT :) Marie (VNWR Community Member) Message # 94179 139.134.58.153 Sat Apr 19 21:22:02 2003 O69

Oh no meanness intended Ghost...i was explaining that i am still way down there in the learning curve...i would never be mean! Stormy Message # 94178 66.19.140.76 Sat Apr 19 21:21:36 2003 I25

MY reply was to THIS post....if you read this post then read my reply perhaps it will be plain: There's a reason Voltar's doing the exercise with you, beyond the obvious value of the text link practice. Let me go back, copy and paste... Old Tom (Vice President) Message # 94151 200.210.226.130 Sat Apr 19 20:59:14 2003 N31 Ghost of Winter Message # 94177 4.41.198.235 Sat Apr 19 21:20:45 2003 I24

*looks confused* Stormy Message # 94176 66.19.140.76 Sat Apr 19 21:19:41 2003 G60

Most of my descripts are lame Marie or have been...after this evening though...i feel they will improve in quality :) Stormy Message # 94175 66.19.140.76 Sat Apr 19 21:19:06 2003 N44

huh??? I have NO idea what you are talking about. I merely made a point...no shitty comment or ANYTHING...if you took that way perhaps we should discuss this in Email.,.it would appear you are taking things WAY outa context Ghost of Winter Message # 94174 4.41.198.235 Sat Apr 19 21:18:16 2003 N43

for those of you just getting here, join right in! we are playing a reg. game of bingo tonight. for the card and bingo rules go here http://www.vnwr.com/bingo/index.html the prize for tonights bingo is $50 in M3 Server bucks good for new or existing hosting with M3 Server http://www.m3server.com Check out our dedicated server specials starting at only $99! Get one now and we will double your servers RAM for life AND double your bandwidth for the first two months! Thanks M3 Server guys! Voltar (President) Message # 94173 148.78.245.11 Sat Apr 19 21:18:08 2003 B09

Actually one of the first things i learned here...was that a site needed to be an entity..different with a flavor a theme and an aim all it's own. Seems basic i am sure to you Ghost but was a revelation to me that sites were not just pics with banners tossed on..each time i learn a bit more about what makes a site a seller...and a bit more about what composes this entity :) Stormy Message # 94172 66.19.140.76 Sat Apr 19 21:18:01 2003 N45

There are lots of guys out there who just have no idea when it comes to how important a description is - one guy has been submitting shemale sites to me with the same description over and over... after a couple of times of me changing them, I'm sick of it now so I just delete his sites... I have written to him asking him to use his imagination, but I think it is just pure laziness on his side to think of something that will make the surfer want to click... Marie (VNWR Community Member) Message # 94171 139.134.58.153 Sat Apr 19 21:17:39 2003 O70

Ghost...this was just plain rude ..uncalled for..and has never been the case.. i/we go to Extreme measures for this never to be the case, as you mentioned about in your rather sitty post.. a classic case of being unprofessional... and as quite often, dead wrong.. it's also offensive.. -------- you mean besides getting you to think about things other than perhaps the niche that you currently promote OT?? Ghost of Winter Message # 94154 4.41.198.235 Sat Apr 19 21:00:52 2003 G55 -------- Voltar (President) Message # 94170 148.78.245.11 Sat Apr 19 21:16:31 2003 B07

That is a very sought after niche OT :) though why they go to pics is beyond me...guess they would settle for stories if they did not find pics? Stormy Message # 94169 66.19.140.76 Sat Apr 19 21:16:08 2003 N36

Stormy...think of a site as both a stand alone thing as well as an intricate Cog in a complicated machine. You are building individual each individual cog, a lot like iron workers building a sky scraper. They don't build it all at once, then build it a little bit at a time. While each small part is not easily identifiable as part of the whole, they all are part of a big plan that fits together to create a large Machine. Ghost of Winter Message # 94168 4.41.198.235 Sat Apr 19 21:15:46 2003 I20

As bad as i hate being deficient at anything every time we have one of these sessions i improve. This time i actually can see connections i had missed before ...valuable lessons from you both thanks Voltar and Tom :) Stormy Message # 94167 66.19.140.76 Sat Apr 19 21:14:23 2003 N36

By the by, if you really know the niche, it's easy. You don't need to entice or build the hunger. All you have to do is clearly describe precisely what you got, and put it in terms showing it's the real thing. If they're searching for niche material, they can look at the description and see that you have what they want. They'll click. 'Caning and Spanking Stories' has brought 'em every day for nigh on five years. (And yes about 50% *still* click straight to the section marked 'galleries'. Come cuz it said stories, and click straight to the pics. Go figure.) (Click straight to the pics and go figure? Well... guess where the Adult Check Gold site ads are.) Old Tom (Vice President) Message # 94166 200.210.226.130 Sat Apr 19 21:14:17 2003 B01

Wow between Tom and Voltar I've made plenty of notes, thanks guys :) Marie (VNWR Community Member) Message # 94165 139.134.58.153 Sat Apr 19 21:12:42 2003 I23

and i have always considered the site an entity and the description an necessary annoyance...it surely makes things clearer and...oddly easier too :) Stormy Message # 94164 66.19.140.76 Sat Apr 19 21:11:02 2003 G48

the light dawns or...the light bulb goes off :) Stormy Message # 94163 66.19.140.76 Sat Apr 19 21:09:51 2003 G51

I always considered the site to be an entity of it's own as well as part of a greater organism......The sum of which is greater than it's parts. Ghost of Winter Message # 94162 4.41.198.235 Sat Apr 19 21:08:43 2003 B03

ahhh...old tom..this is where lots of people have trouble at and go lame on it... can make a huge differnce in traffic and sales filtering.. lets see..asian gals... staying away from the over used sucky, fucky and sushi.. oriental sweeties on cum diet the new oriental blowjob champion raw asian sex without sumos asian taco eating contest photos hong kong backdoor bar maid hi hi japanese hi hi disco sex alive in asia etc.. ;) Voltar (President) Message # 94161 148.78.245.11 Sat Apr 19 21:07:42 2003 G56

That five-word site description is your first step in targeting and filtering traffic into your site. I can't emphasize that strongly enough! That five-word description is just an important part of your packaging, as is the sponsor banners themselves. Your site is NOT repeat NOT a bunch of pics with ads thrown in. The entire site is an entity as a whole, and you MUST think of it that way. And that entity includes the advance scouts, if you will... the listing descriptions. Where is first contact? The description. What can possibly be more important than THAT? Old Tom (Vice President) Message # 94160 200.210.226.130 Sat Apr 19 21:06:59 2003 G48

I heard that one Stormy...the luck of the draw it seems.... Ghost of Winter Message # 94159 4.41.198.235 Sat Apr 19 21:04:35 2003 I18

LOL Board Bot has a thing going with toastena and tossing out duplicates tonight :) Stormy Message # 94158 66.19.140.76 Sat Apr 19 21:03:14 2003 N45

Old Tom, Hope you are feeling better soon.. hmmm 5 words -:) cock sucking Asian cherry lips Hot pussy from the Orient Sexy Asian chick showing pink Pop her sweet asian cherry Slippery when wet Asian babes hmmm sorry I'm probably not thinking along the right lines :) Marie (VNWR Community Member) Message # 94157 139.134.58.153 Sat Apr 19 21:03:04 2003 B11

Excerpted from Message # 1869: You caught the essential focus of my explanation - the packaging. "Just another teen softcore site..." Quite true, and perhaps quite *not* true. That depends on how you build the illusion - they could be *perceived* as entirely different sites. And, if so, one site may turn your surfer's crank whereas the other did not. Catch the imagination, catch the memory of what started this particular interest of theirs, and their hearts and minds will follow. The key is *what they think they're getting*. I believe this is the key to understanding search engine traffic, and I believe it explains why I continue to get checks for The Bawdyhouse even though I only listed it three or four places. The way I look at it, is this. *Why* did they click on a link to get to *my* site? Or, thinking backwards, let's focus on that link. That is, focus on that link they clicked to get to my site. That link is *outside* my domain. Did I have any control over it? Most certainly! I suggested a description when I submitted the site. I designed that site description so that the *right* people would click. That is, the people most likely to be interested by the attitude / illusion / slant that I have to offer. If I can catch their interest, they may whip out that credit card. Again, I think of the site itself as a catalyst or conduit. I design that outside link right along with the site itself. I think of the whole thing as a *package*. Thus, the essential question is, *what did the surfer expect when heading towards my site*? That's my first step in filtering and focusing. Old Tom (Vice President) Message # 94156 200.210.226.130 Sat Apr 19 21:02:18 2003 I27

Why do I seem to be getting the same numbers over and over again?? Ghost of Winter Message # 94155 4.41.198.235 Sat Apr 19 21:01:32 2003 B06

you mean besides getting you to think about things other than perhaps the niche that you currently promote OT?? Ghost of Winter Message # 94154 4.41.198.235 Sat Apr 19 21:00:52 2003 G55

You mean it is not to torture us? joking :) Stormy Message # 94153 66.19.140.76 Sat Apr 19 21:00:30 2003 N32

Your new addiction! Asian Crack Stormy Message # 94152 66.19.140.76 Sat Apr 19 20:59:41 2003 O63

There's a reason Voltar's doing the exercise with you, beyond the obvious value of the text link practice. Let me go back, copy and paste... Old Tom (Vice President) Message # 94151 200.210.226.130 Sat Apr 19 20:59:14 2003 N31

how about Fuckable raw sushi then Stormy?? Ghost of Winter Message # 94150 4.41.198.235 Sat Apr 19 20:58:40 2003 G50

LOL Ghost i was wondering if the sushi would be clickable *still thinking* Stormy Message # 94149 66.19.140.76 Sat Apr 19 20:57:28 2003 I29

Think funny Stormy...think...you can do it! >:) Ghost of Winter Message # 94148 4.41.198.235 Sat Apr 19 20:56:53 2003 G55

Thanks Ghost and everybody! Long as I sleep 12 hours a day and take a nap in the afternoon, I seem to be doing well. Sheesh. Like I had mono, but I had that in college, and I don't think you can get that twice. Old Tom (Vice President) Message # 94147 200.210.226.130 Sat Apr 19 20:56:28 2003 I20

5 words huh? i better rethink hehe Mr. Boo (PlumperCash.com) Message # 94146 195.40.200.227 Sat Apr 19 20:56:07 2003 B12

Raw Sushi Fuck Oriental flavored poontang Ghost of Winter Message # 94145 4.41.198.235 Sat Apr 19 20:56:06 2003 G60

if i seem silent *for once* it is because i am thinking hard! Stormy Message # 94144 66.19.140.76 Sat Apr 19 20:55:20 2003 G55

Oh, well, hell, if you're thinking up the five words as you're submitting the site, you're missing a bet, missing the point, and failed to think things through as you built the site in the first place. Old Tom (Vice President) Message # 94143 200.210.226.130 Sat Apr 19 20:54:57 2003 I29

Sexy Oriental Sushi Pussy Oriental Sucki Fucki Mr. Boo (PlumperCash.com) Message # 94142 195.40.200.227 Sat Apr 19 20:54:44 2003 I26

Hey Boo.....good to see ya here.... How you feeling OT?? feeling better?? Ghost of Winter Message # 94141 4.41.198.235 Sat Apr 19 20:53:47 2003 N34

yea old tom.. we are doing text submission text .. like what you do when submitting a site.. 5 words max.. site theme is now.. asian gals.. -- Hi Boo! Voltar (President) Message # 94140 148.78.245.11 Sat Apr 19 20:52:47 2003 N44

Sexy orient Spice flavored Pussy Ghost of Winter Message # 94139 4.41.198.235 Sat Apr 19 20:51:41 2003 N43

Hi Tom, Yes there is... you know stormy, sometimes its hard to think about text links but after talking with Voltar and others on VNWR it does make it easier :) Marie (VNWR Community Member) Message # 94138 139.134.58.153 Sat Apr 19 20:51:34 2003 N36

for those of you just getting here, join right in! we are playing a reg. game of bingo tonight. for the card and bingo rules go here http://www.vnwr.com/bingo/index.html the prize for tonights bingo is $50 in M3 Server bucks good for new or existing hosting with M3 Server http://www.m3server.com Check out our dedicated server specials starting at only $99! Get one now and we will double your servers RAM for life AND double your bandwidth for the first two months! Thanks M3 Server guys! Voltar (President) Message # 94137 148.78.245.11 Sat Apr 19 20:51:27 2003 B14

ok new niche, remember 5 words max... (ghost) :) lets do... asian gals.. ok go for it everyone! Hi OT! Voltar (President) Message # 94136 148.78.245.11 Sat Apr 19 20:50:44 2003 N43

ther pervert is here, the pervert is here, everyone run away cause the pervert is here! Mr. Boo (PlumperCash.com)   Yea baby, luvin that chub! Message # 94135 195.40.200.227 Sat Apr 19 20:50:27 2003 O75

Hello Old Tom. How are you feeling this evening? Stormy Message # 94134 66.19.140.76 Sat Apr 19 20:50:07 2003 G56

Yes with text links practice makes a big difference! Is there a text link topic of the moment? Old Tom (Vice President) Message # 94133 200.210.226.130 Sat Apr 19 20:48:23 2003 N45

Stormy..really..pick any niche... then think to yourself.."where and in what situation would this niche occur that it seemed sexual to a person first seeing it" from that you can build from.. examples.. first time a guy really sees a pussy is a gal peeing in the woods.. interest is peeked and grows from that.. first time a guy gets wood is from seig tight fiting panites molded to a gals pussy..under her skirt ..or in a catalog... interst peeked..and grows.. add those things and what turn ons for that niche could be... and booommmm...you just sold to major parts of surfers of any niche you do that for... you baskicly..slip the surfers skin over you and see thru thier eyes as to what it is that turns them on..concentrating on that niche.. think of a dreamwalker that hitches rides with other peole while dream walknig..inside of them and seeing what they see..from there you can visualize it for yourself.. :) Voltar (President) Message # 94132 148.78.245.11 Sat Apr 19 20:48:03 2003 N36

Good evening :) Old Tom (Vice President) Message # 94131 200.210.226.130 Sat Apr 19 20:47:11 2003 G60

As much as i complain about text links i noticed after the last little excercise it was actually easier and they were somewhat better when i went to make a site. Of course it would be tough to get worse either : ) Stormy Message # 94130 66.19.140.76 Sat Apr 19 20:46:46 2003 B10

Same here...busy trying to build while working 72 hours a week as well as looking for a house and so on and so on. LOL as for a link list description.....when you wanna have your cake and eat it too! Ghost of Winter Message # 94129 4.41.198.235 Sat Apr 19 20:43:57 2003 N34

LOL on that note She's now serving number 5 Stormy Message # 94128 66.19.140.76 Sat Apr 19 20:43:39 2003 I19

Grab a number its orgytime lol Marie (VNWR Community Member) Message # 94127 139.134.58.153 Sat Apr 19 20:42:38 2003 I18

lol hmmm have no idea but this one just slipped in :) Hot pussy open for business!! lol Marie (VNWR Community Member) Message # 94126 139.134.58.153 Sat Apr 19 20:41:45 2003 O63

if they get drunk enough they will Stormy LOL Hi Marie >:) Ghost of Winter Message # 94125 4.41.198.235 Sat Apr 19 20:41:41 2003 B04

Ghost..been keeping very busy...gearing up for lots of summer projects.. :) hi ChristyB! Voltar (President)   BJ Haunt..a ghostly sex Message # 94124 148.78.245.11 Sat Apr 19 20:41:07 2003 G55

today's special Man Sandwich Stormy Message # 94123 66.19.140.76 Sat Apr 19 20:41:03 2003 B13

hi ChristyB :) Hi Ghost :) Marie (VNWR Community Member) Message # 94122 139.134.58.153 Sat Apr 19 20:40:14 2003 G47

hi Christy Umm Ghost when i go to a bar they usually arent gonna say it around me :) Stormy Message # 94121 66.19.140.76 Sat Apr 19 20:39:23 2003 I22

stormy, it would spill out and evaporate..so lets not try it :)) but really its easy to do, i'm teaching you all right now :) Ghost..5 words max..and link list text you would submit to one when submitting your site.. ok still on orgy for another minute them we go to another niche :) Voltar (President) Message # 94120 148.78.245.11 Sat Apr 19 20:38:26 2003 B09

Hi VNWR, Congrats on the pink Alan :) ChristyB Message # 94119 80.192.42.59 Sat Apr 19 20:38:02 2003 B02

wanna know where it comes from Stormy? you have to think like the perverted little surfer cattle that you are marketing to.....if you get a chance sometime go to a bar and sit and just listen to what they say....you might pick up a few new ideas >:) Hi Voltar....been a busy spring so far for me...how about you?? Ghost of Winter Message # 94118 4.41.198.235 Sat Apr 19 20:37:30 2003 G60

for those of you just getting here, join right in! we are playing a reg. game of bingo tonight. for the card and bingo rules go here http://www.vnwr.com/bingo/index.html the prize for tonights bingo is $50 in M3 Server bucks good for new or existing hosting with M3 Server http://www.m3server.com Check out our dedicated server specials starting at only $99! Get one now and we will double your servers RAM for life AND double your bandwidth for the first two months! Thanks M3 Server guys! Voltar (President) Message # 94117 148.78.245.11 Sat Apr 19 20:36:11 2003 B05

If i had one wish right now Voltar it would be to open up your head peek inside and find out where that stuff comes from Stormy Message # 94116 66.19.140.76 Sat Apr 19 20:35:45 2003 N39

hi ghost! not bad ladies...but make it more clickable..something they HAVE to check out... that way it stands out from the link list links.. :) Voltar (President)   XXX Guys Message # 94115 148.78.245.11 Sat Apr 19 20:35:12 2003 O63

*wonders who tightened the screws on the good number machine....* Ghost of Winter Message # 94114 4.41.198.235 Sat Apr 19 20:34:48 2003 G46

Orgy Feast For you tonight!! Marie (VNWR Community Member) Message # 94113 139.134.58.153 Sat Apr 19 20:34:34 2003 O73

oh REALLY? Hmm...but what will I tell my other woman? she might get jealous! LOL Orgy huh?? Hmm....when one set of tits is just NOT enough to satisfy your craving for milk! Ghost of Winter Message # 94112 4.41.198.235 Sat Apr 19 20:34:09 2003 O61

Yes Ghost, the bigger the orgy the better :) Stormy Message # 94111 66.19.140.76 Sat Apr 19 20:32:41 2003 G46

are you saying you don't want a threesome but rather an orgy? LOL Ghost of Winter Message # 94110 4.41.198.235 Sat Apr 19 20:31:44 2003 I16

Good one Marie :)) ok Ghost your turn :) Stormy Message # 94109 66.19.140.76 Sat Apr 19 20:31:42 2003 N37

stormy..besides... this can get you more traffic, targeted, and ready for your sponsors than most things you can do.. vital importance is how you are linked to your site..it can make majjor $$$ differnces... so yea this is a GOOD one to do.. :) ok i'll do a couple.. orgy.. betty porks every dick around she sucked 5 dicks together anal, oral, and pussy fuckwich gangbang super saturday suck off blow hards give good head mutlipartner naked spin the trollop orgy wilderess photo documentary yea those work.. :) Voltar (President) Message # 94108 148.78.245.11 Sat Apr 19 20:31:40 2003 G52

Hot Orgy - no holes barred!! hmmm wow Easter Sunday has slowed the brain I think lol Marie (VNWR Community Member) Message # 94107 139.134.58.153 Sat Apr 19 20:30:56 2003 I28

LOL yes, Marie myself and Voltar are all that is playing and Voltar doesnt count :) Besides it is text link time :) Stormy Message # 94106 66.19.140.76 Sat Apr 19 20:30:31 2003 O71

I take it you are a bit lonely???? Ghost of Winter Message # 94105 4.41.198.235 Sat Apr 19 20:29:09 2003 B13

Yes Ghost!!! YES :) Stormy Message # 94104 66.19.140.76 Sat Apr 19 20:27:44 2003 O67

I wonder if I should play tnite...... Ghost of Winter Message # 94103 4.41.198.235 Sat Apr 19 20:26:47 2003 O63

LOl then i need to borrow a family!! Stormy Message # 94102 66.19.140.76 Sat Apr 19 20:24:50 2003 N44

Georgie's Orgy open holes everywhere LOL i surely hate this :) Stormy Message # 94101 66.19.140.76 Sat Apr 19 20:23:43 2003 N45

nope..more people will come :) and others will learn as well from it :) Marie.. it's a holiday weekend..lots of family time happening.. i expected it to be lite.. Voltar (President) Message # 94100 148.78.245.11 Sat Apr 19 20:23:11 2003 I29

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