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this post officially starts LTS today,
which we now have on the first Sunday of each month..

for info on LTS go here
http://www.vnwr.com/ltsinfo.html

Rock and Roll!
and watch the growing list at the bottom of the board today :)

Voltar (President)
Message # 156798 148.78.243.123 Sun Apr 6 07:35:14 2008


morning all..

*.jp xxx or the same thing with upskirts or japan in it over at google bazz..or you might try getting on some of the larger tgps asian or upskirts area pages..places like richards realm, free 6, easypics, or the hun...just remember that tgp traffic, while more of it, it is much less in quality..even at the level we are talking about you doing advertising..

yea donald..i saw NC at half time and it was sad man..very sad..they looked like they ahd tied one on the night before..

Voltar (President)
Message # 156797 148.78.243.123 Sun Apr 6 07:33:18 2008


Morning all i am looking to advertise in japan i have some upskirts sites and apparently the japanese are crazy about upskirts anybody know any good places or sites were i can do so?
bazz
Message # 156796 79.19.121.191 Sun Apr 6 04:47:15 2008


Nope, fraid not.
carolina is out of it. They got whipped bad.

DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 156795 65.191.53.84 Sun Apr 6 00:24:37 2008


no it's a guy i know..and so i don't think you'll be making the drive for him :)

Voltar (President)
Message # 156794 148.78.243.121 Sat Apr 5 22:23:34 2008


Been thinking about that last post. It was a lie. If it's a she and she's willing, I'll make the drive. Don't really give a damn what she looks like. hehehehe :D
DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 156793 65.191.53.84 Sat Apr 5 21:18:52 2008


"yeppers, that's the one...i know someone who's going to be there for a couple of days next week..and thought it was in your neighborhood..so to speak )"

Well if it's a she and she looks good, I'll drive the three hours! LOL :D

DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 156792 65.191.53.84 Sat Apr 5 20:13:36 2008


and another stupid spammers post is pulled..

Voltar (President)
Message # 156791 148.78.243.121 Sat Apr 5 13:39:23 2008


yeppers, that's the one...i know someone who's going to be there for a couple of days next week..and thought it was in your neighborhood..so to speak )

morning all..

Voltar (President)
Message # 156789 148.78.243.123 Sat Apr 5 05:00:37 2008


That is assuming you're talking about Tigerball, aka, golf.
DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 156788 65.191.53.84 Fri Apr 4 23:08:26 2008


Google maps say 242 mi – about 3 hours 46 mins
DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 156787 65.191.53.84 Fri Apr 4 23:05:47 2008


hey donald..how far away is the masters from you?

Voltar (President)
Message # 156786 148.78.243.122 Fri Apr 4 22:51:01 2008


Good evening ya'll :)
I hope all is well with you :)

DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 156785 65.191.53.84 Fri Apr 4 21:01:00 2008


morning agaian..
it's Friday!!!

Voltar (President)
Message # 156784 148.78.243.122 Fri Apr 4 06:46:51 2008


morning all..

Voltar (President)
Message # 156783 148.78.243.122 Thu Apr 3 05:48:55 2008


yea you would think they would..spammer scum..and this one had a russian email address..
well.. it's pulled..

Voltar (President)
Message # 156782 148.78.243.121 Wed Apr 2 19:44:41 2008


Hello all :D

Seems as though they'd at least learn to code before they spam. Morons. <shaking head>

DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 156781 65.191.53.84 Wed Apr 2 16:55:53 2008


morning everyone..

hopefully she will see your message and get ahold of you merlin

Voltar (President)
Message # 156779 148.78.243.122 Wed Apr 2 05:49:41 2008


Greetings everyone!

ChristyB looks like we are having email problems reaching you, I sent you an email from my yahoo account as well.

If anyone here knows christyb, please get have christyb contact us from an alternate email address other than they are trying to use.

I wish everyone a productive day!

Merlin (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 156778 70.238.136.161 Tue Apr 1 16:03:35 2008


morning all..

Voltar (President)
Message # 156777 148.78.243.122 Tue Apr 1 05:38:16 2008




The VNWR Board Bot (The Ghost of VNWR)   OT Scripts Industrial Strength
Message # 156776 127.0.0.1 Mon Mar 31 21:12:17 2008


yeppers, but at least NC is hanging on in there :)

Voltar (President)
Message # 156775 148.78.243.122 Mon Mar 31 21:12:17 2008


Kudos to them though Voltar. They went alot further than anyone expected them to.
DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 156774 65.191.53.84 Mon Mar 31 19:17:39 2008


morning all..

well davidson didn't make it to the final 4..just the final 8..not bad for a 10 seat..
for once..every one of the 4 teams in the final 4 are number one seats..i can't remember that ever happening before in the ncaa..

Voltar (President)
Message # 156773 148.78.243.121 Mon Mar 31 05:31:15 2008


yea donald..they have been predicted to go all the way...but one never knows :)

Voltar (President)
Message # 156772 148.78.243.122 Sun Mar 30 06:34:50 2008


morning everyone..

i see the stupid spammer was back..his idoit loan post has been pulled..what a fucking loser!

Voltar (President)
Message # 156771 148.78.243.122 Sun Mar 30 06:33:13 2008


Yea, it will be. I might even have to put some money on the carolina boys. nah...don't know that much about it. lol
DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 156769 65.191.53.84 Sat Mar 29 22:51:50 2008


and NC takes another one tonight too..
now if davidson knocks out kansas tomorrow night..then it going to be a very good final 4 game there :)

Voltar (President)
Message # 156768 148.78.243.121 Sat Mar 29 22:04:01 2008


they sure did!
:)

morning all..

Voltar (President)
Message # 156767 148.78.243.123 Sat Mar 29 10:47:15 2008


Yeppers, davidson didn't skunk em', but they dern sure spanked em'
DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 156766 65.191.53.84 Fri Mar 28 23:39:02 2008


nah bazz, as long as people keep getting born, there will be new users coming on the net all the time..so that won't be it :)

yea donald..davidson..playing right now :)

Voltar (President)
Message # 156765 148.78.243.121 Fri Mar 28 19:25:31 2008


Na, I doubt that.
DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 156764 65.191.53.84 Fri Mar 28 19:21:30 2008


OR are poeple getting bored of the internet,Has the novelty worn thin.
bazz
Message # 156763 82.35.162.235 Fri Mar 28 18:23:09 2008


"davidson"

Who? lol
I think the economy is playing a role, weather, etc. Even my fishing site has dropped real low, and this should be when my stuff starts popping. Maybe that stimulas check will pick things up. Don't know though, damned gas jumped 10 cent a gallon in the time I drove across town and back this morning. I still say we as americans should just stop buying it for a few days. Everybody in the country just stop. Four or five days of dead sales might put a lump in the throats of oil companies!
And there's my rant for the day.

DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 156762 65.191.53.84 Fri Mar 28 10:22:18 2008


morning everyone...

well bazz, there is a big incentive happening here in may, where all the working people are getting hundreds of dollars back from the government..so you may/should see a bump then..

Voltar (President)
Message # 156761 148.78.243.122 Fri Mar 28 05:40:11 2008


This year i have more refunds and chargbacks in the first third than i have had in the first six months of recent years, yes there's an increase in fraud! and clever cilents who complain about being rebilled.lets hope things pick up again..
bazz
Message # 156760 82.35.162.235 Fri Mar 28 03:07:09 2008


spring! i have been lucky in recent years then because i have always had my best sales in the spring march april. thats why i'm worried....
bazz
Message # 156759 82.35.162.235 Fri Mar 28 02:24:31 2008


VP glad to help!

donald..yea they are ahead right now..and what about davidson..kicking butt and coming uot of no where!

bazz, yea man it always slows down this time of year..spring has sprung..last weekend was a family holiday weekend, and college basketball is around..all of which slows down porn looking..

Voltar (President)
Message # 156758 148.78.243.121 Thu Mar 27 19:05:21 2008


Donald,

Yeh you could be right there! most of my cilents are from the states. yes thats a thought!

bazz
Message # 156757 82.35.162.235 Thu Mar 27 16:51:30 2008


Hi ya bazz :D
The weather is starting to warm up. People are starting to spend their time outside. (Harley weather)
And given gas prices here in the states, all the extra $$$ is going into the tank, rather than porn. Plus, might just be me, food prices are getting crazy so people might be more inclined to horde their money. Not sure that's what it is, just a few suggestions.

DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 156756 65.191.53.84 Thu Mar 27 16:37:19 2008


Is it me or has the traffic slowed down! sales have really dropped over the last month.
bazz
Message # 156755 82.35.162.235 Thu Mar 27 13:56:24 2008


Yea UNC might do it. I really don't pay attention to it though. Just not my thing. Can't avoid it around here this time of year though.

That's the way to do it VP! Build submit, submit, submit some more, build submit, submit, submit.......etc etc etc.......

DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 156754 65.191.53.84 Thu Mar 27 13:55:10 2008


Morning all....

Yes, I did submit to several links and asked the admin to let me know if everything was in order, several wrote back and said I was good to go so I was happy about that. Thanks for all the help.

VP
Message # 156753 70.3.1.15 Thu Mar 27 07:18:16 2008


morning all..

Voltar (President)
Message # 156752 148.78.243.122 Thu Mar 27 05:42:01 2008


yea donald..the ncaa tournament is going strong..i think NC might be final 4..and could win it..
Voltar (President)
Message # 156751 148.78.243.122 Wed Mar 26 22:07:44 2008


VP, once you have the recip links up..you submit to those link lists...they will have a submission page...and it takes time to get traffic..you may be reviewed in a day, a week, a month..then they link to you and hopefully some traffic comes your way...you will weed out those who don't send you much traffic at all or take forever to list you..that too takes time..
your goal is to get a website done and submitted each day..after about a dozen of those..then follow the T2 triples project...
and don't forget to read the rules on the places you submit to ..it does make a difference..and each are unique pretty much..
but yea, it takes time..

Voltar (President)
Message # 156750 148.78.243.122 Wed Mar 26 22:05:59 2008


Ok, I have put all this work into two websites and am wondering how to get traffic to start going to the sites. I have recip links and have submitted to the search engines...so what am I doing wrong?

Thanks,

VP
Message # 156749 68.240.88.228 Wed Mar 26 19:20:39 2008


I just saw a commercial for blood donation that said if you donated you'd get tshirt of your choice sayin "I bleed wolfpack red" "I bleed carolina blue" etc..etc.. (Colage basketball)
I wonder what they'd say if I asked for one that said..."I bleed porno pink!" hahahaha..

DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 156748 65.191.53.84 Wed Mar 26 17:42:12 2008


Sunday was good, some egg hunting, eating, playing with the kids, some eating, some more eating....
Monday was just another day.

DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 156747 65.191.53.84 Wed Mar 26 15:22:48 2008


morning all..
Voltar (President)
Message # 156746 148.78.243.122 Wed Mar 26 05:41:38 2008


thanks donald..been ok..how was yours?

spam post 156744 has been pulled..
lame dick dwebo..
not allowed here..

Voltar (President)
Message # 156745 148.78.243.122 Tue Mar 25 22:15:58 2008


Hello :)
I hope you had a good one and a day after as well Voltar.

DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 156743 65.191.53.84 Tue Mar 25 21:44:38 2008


and day after too :)

Voltar (President)
Message # 156742 148.78.243.122 Tue Mar 25 16:00:35 2008


hope you all had a good dingus/dyngus day today!

Voltar (President)
Message # 156741 148.78.243.122 Mon Mar 24 18:50:25 2008


morning all..

VP most are about the same..just be sure to be and get the 2257 info..so you are legal..
some of the cheapest are rock bottom content, web-legal and ezsets
just add .com on them(take out spaces) and peek around

Voltar (President)
Message # 156740 148.78.243.123 Mon Mar 24 11:12:29 2008


Who do you recommend for purchasing content?
VP
Message # 156739 70.3.109.1 Sun Mar 23 14:54:26 2008


VP, yea, i thought that might be the case...you can't go that route...
and no they don't have any pics..in fact usually you buy content to use..it's fairly cheap..many times you get a full set for around $20..which usually can do 2-3 sites..and you can promote whoever you want with it..
sponsored supplied content is one of the worst legal ways to go...it's most times over used and seem a 100 times before by the reviewers..so if you get listed it'll be a low listing...after all they can only list so many sites with the same pics...

Voltar (President)
Message # 156738 148.78.243.121 Sun Mar 23 13:31:18 2008


Donald and Voltar,

Thanks for your help and input, I totally agree with you regarding the pics being blurry (and the content not matching). I don't know what to do about this due to the fact that Maximum Cash doesn't seem to provide straight promo content. These photos are apparently screen shots of the videos and they do not seem to provide any other photos of a clearer nature. And when you go to their area called Free Hosted Galleries (the only place I could find actual pics) the thumbs and full size don't match either.

I know that the second site I am working on is through Realty Cash and although it is video promo also they specifically have a promo content with zip files of both full size pics and thumbs.

If I am not seeing this on Max Cash please let me know because I have scoured the site and can't find them. The only other thing I see to do is redo the site with a different sponsor, or maybe put some videos on there instead of the pics.

Thoughts?

VP
Message # 156737 70.3.109.1 Sun Mar 23 09:42:38 2008


morning everyone..

hope you all have a great Easter!!
find lots of eggs :)

Voltar (President)
Message # 156736 148.78.243.121 Sun Mar 23 06:08:27 2008


oh and don't use blue text on a black background..it's very hard to read for many people..

Voltar (President)
Message # 156735 148.78.243.121 Sat Mar 22 19:29:12 2008


evening all..

ditto to what donald said there for your questions..

looked at your site..and there are still some problems..it is looking better, but your thumbs don't match your content..and your content is to blurry...don't over optimize it...they need to be clear for the link lists to list you..
and remember..the thumbnail pic HAS to match the full sized pic..looked at your gallery one and they don't...you need to fix that..

Voltar (President)
Message # 156734 148.78.243.121 Sat Mar 22 19:28:29 2008


Good evening :)

Hi VP,
I'll let Voltar go over your site with you. He can do it alot better than I.
(1) Consoles are pop-ups, you really won't need those untill you get a few freesites under your belt because the places that you whant to list your site won't allow them.
(2)The videos have to be downloaded to your computer, then uploaded to your site. Never link to anything on the sponsors site, that's hotlinking and can get you in trouble. I've not done much with videos, but I believe they have to be processed, and cut into smaller clips. But you will have to host them on your site.

DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 156733 65.191.53.84 Sat Mar 22 19:02:45 2008


I have a few question and I can't find the answers in the newbie section -

1. What are consoles? I see there is a lesson on it but it really doesn't say "what" they are and what they are used for?

2. If we are promoting a site that has videos and they provide sample video should we a) link to their site sample b) does this go on the page "below" the main page, i.e. index ---> Main ---> Gallery1 or Gallery2?

Thanks!

VP
Message # 156732 68.240.216.134 Sat Mar 22 14:34:26 2008


Would help to give you the link -

http://www.venusplayhouse.com/sites/lesbian/lezlovers/index.html

VP
Message # 156731 68.240.216.134 Sat Mar 22 11:05:26 2008


Morning everyone, hope all are doing well! Sorry you all are getting snow, it was mid 70's here yesterday, I had the windows open all day!

Well, after several days of reading, altering, resizing, uploading, drinking lots of beer, pissing (how can I possibly piss more than I drink, never understood that) I hope the site is where it needs to be. If all would take a look and provide comments, if we are ok then I will link it up.

Thanks for everyone's patience!!!

VP
Message # 156730 68.240.216.134 Sat Mar 22 11:04:44 2008


Good morning all! :)
I hope everyone has a happy and safe easter.

Mawmaw and the Wabbit
Sounds like a milf site to me!

DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 156729 65.191.53.84 Sat Mar 22 10:22:25 2008


morning all...

Here cums Peters cotton tail..
She's hopping down tampon trail..
With her string hanging out all the way..

Here sucks Peters cotton tail..
She's slirpping down his cock trail..
With her ass all lubed up for greek all the way..

and so on and so forth..
the rule for sales is to get noticed newbies!

be witty, be wild, be unexpected..
and above all get thier attention!!
things like the example above do that...
and that helps you get clicks to your sponsors..helps make you money!

hope this helps clarify what good sales text can be for many of you newer webmasters :)

Voltar (President)
Message # 156728 148.78.243.123 Sat Mar 22 07:55:46 2008


yea jojasa, we are expecting about 6 inches of snow here today/tonight as well..tough to tell yesterday was the first day of spring!

glad to hear it VP..you never quite know what tid bits and info you may pick up..some of it is pure gold :)

Voltar (President)
Message # 156727 148.78.243.122 Fri Mar 21 20:31:44 2008


F*!king snow, it's supposed to be spring!
We've gotten 9 inches since this morning and it's still coming down. oh well, at least we aren't under a couple feet of water. That won't happen till next week when this mess melts again. lol

I'm just so cheerful today.

Jojasa (Vice President)
Message # 156726 76.209.63.249 Fri Mar 21 16:58:39 2008


morning Voltar! had to laugh this morning, the board has become one of my regular checks in the morning now along with my regular email
VP
Message # 156725 70.3.124.213 Fri Mar 21 08:27:05 2008


morning all..

Voltar (President)
Message # 156724 148.78.243.121 Fri Mar 21 05:44:27 2008


yeppers, and they always get the boot :)

Voltar (President)
Message # 156723 148.78.243.123 Thu Mar 20 19:46:11 2008


Morning poeple,the spammers have been presenting themselves a lot here lately
bazz
Message # 156722 82.35.162.235 Thu Mar 20 07:10:31 2008


morning all..

political spam is pulled...not allowed here.

Voltar (President)
Message # 156721 148.78.243.123 Thu Mar 20 05:52:30 2008


also VP..the reason i can't spell it out is that the ampersand symbol does post here on the board correctly..nor it's change..
and for some reason when you view source you get the messed up code..it's not someting you will see from looking at what you are working on...you need to load the webpage and view source..that's what it's putting out
and jsut so we know we are on the same page..what i'm calling the ampersand is the symbol above the 7 on my keyboard... :)

and not all sponsors use the ampersand symbol in thier liking..each is unique to thier own program..so the other sponsor wouldn't have it in thier link..it's been an ongoing problem for years...there is no software that will work correct with the adult webmastering..it's all to softcore :)

oh and no, the directory was not max cash that i was reffering to..it was the lesbian pink directory you had as the sites directory..

Voltar (President)
Message # 156719 148.78.243.123 Wed Mar 19 22:34:53 2008


idiot spammers post has been pulled..

vp i'm tied up with other stuff at the moment..but go to your site..right click and view source..there you will se how it changed it..

merlin, thanks man..i'll be using a new email address for vnwr...that one has been been used that way for 7 years straight now...so the new one won't have any spam for at least a while :)

Voltar (President)
Message # 156718 148.78.243.121 Wed Mar 19 19:14:09 2008


Just checked in a Reality Cash and this is their linking code:

http://tour.jrcollegelesbians.com/track/MjIyNTM6Njo2MA,42/

So now I am really confused about this ampersand thing.

vp
Message # 156716 70.2.19.103 Wed Mar 19 15:24:53 2008


Voltar,

I feel like I am going backwards and not forwards on this thing....LOL. Ok, here is what has happened, I use to write pages from scratch literally before their was Java or any of that other new fangled stuff. Well, that was years ago and since then I have gotten lazy thus the Paper Cup... ahhhh, I mean Coffee Cup. Soooo, I was being lazy instead of relearning the code....guess that wasn't a good idea, and when I was writing we were on HTML 1.0 and then finally 2.0. That is when I got out of it, so there is a lot more flexibility in what you can do with the page now. So I am going back to basics and relearn it.

Second, I was making it way too hard, after looking at the example site you sent me my first thought was "does this thing really make money?" Well, I know it does, it was just a wakeup call for me.

Ok, now down to questions, I went back and review the items you noted. Your first comment refers to the directory called "MaxCash", correct?

Now regarding the code, I went back to MaxCash and looked at the links that they provide and they are exactly as are on the page, there are no ampersand signs in their codes, so I am confused. Here is what they have on the site when you get your code for each niche:

http://www.lesbianpink.com/indexb.php?webm_id=venusplayhouse

So I am confused about that, none of their linking codes have an apersand.

Ok, I am going back to rewrite the pages. I remember these days, start working on a website and next thing you know it is 2am in the morning, sheeez this is addicting!



VP
Message # 156715 70.2.19.103 Wed Mar 19 14:16:17 2008


Good morning folks.

Voltar your email access is open.

Tips for safe keeping your email service.

It may be convenient to forward email received from your domain to your internet service provider. This is not wise. More and more ISPs are using methods to block spam that can prevent you from receiving email sent to your domain name. If you forward mail to your ISP, they monitor this. Since most email is spam, their stats and logs will report to them that spam is coming from your domain name and IP address. It will appear to them that you are spamming their servers. They often have auto blockers to block the traffic to protect their email server.

So, what to do? If you don't have an email security filter service, then you should check your email locally on the server with a pop3 client, like outlook express. Then, you can directly pull the email right off your server and not have it routed to your ISP.


Merlin (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 156714 70.238.179.246 Wed Mar 19 10:15:21 2008


special note...the voltar@vnwr.com email is shut down at this time...so use my starband.net one if you need to contact me...

Voltar (President)
Message # 156713 148.78.243.123 Wed Mar 19 06:44:50 2008


morning all..

Voltar (President)
Message # 156712 148.78.243.122 Wed Mar 19 05:07:24 2008


donald, jsut planted maters and peppers tonight in a mini little hot house type thing so i can plant them in about 4 weeks from now...we had it snopw a tad here yesterday...so it'll be a while til it's safe to plant outside..

VP..
ok, problems are showing up on your site...
your links to your galleries have the sponsors name in them..make them confusing and reviewers from the sites you submit to will ban you for it..
you need a name for each sub site you make, that is unique to it's self..not your sponosr..just niche oriented..why not call this one..Lez Licks and go from there...it's niche oriented..

next huge proble is that you are using a html made for non adult sites..it's fucking you..it's making pages huge in code..and unneeded code..as well as changing your sponsor code..it takes out the ampersand sign in the code and replaces it with several characters...look at your code of your link to your sponsors site and you will see and something amp in it..taht use to be an ampersand sign..which you NEED to get full and accurate credit for sending the traffic..

frnot page and coffee clutch(i mean cup) are some of the worse at doing this...don't ever use them
learn html and use that...
look in the newbie quick start guide i have a section that ..it teaches you html in an hour :) ..all you need is 10 commands for 90% or more of what you do..and extras you will pick up by looking at peoples...
this is very important..know the code you are using to make money off of..things will go wrong and wonky and you will need to be able to fix them..and it's a shit load faster to do and load if you do it by hand as well :)

also..
don't use graphics to link to your galleries..waste of space, load time, and money(you pay for the bandwidth you use)..just use text...remember..you really don't want to show any pics at all..you want them to go to the sponsor..but don't hide the links either :)
OH, and make your subdirectory the name of your site..at the end..not the sponsor..

and on your galleries...there are problems..
the lik lists will not list you if you open anything in a new window when clicked..that includes graphics(the pics)
you need an image optimizer..
thumbnail images need to be between 120 and 150 on thier long side..and around 5k in weight max each..
full sized images should be 30k-40k in weight each on average and must be at least 500 on thier long side..some places are even going 640 on the long side..
yours are off on both your thumbs and full sized pics..so you won't get listed and will just get yourself banned if you submit them as is..

one more thing...on the entrance page..get rid of teh warning and venus playhouse tag at the top..just have your sponsor up there

there you go ...hope it helps you..read and double check everything...
and just so you can see that a sponsor oriented website doesn't have to messy looking..but can be clean looking..i've dropped the link to one of my old free sites below..i think you'll learn a few things from it :)

Voltar (President)   Cassie O ..a free site of mine
Message # 156711 148.78.243.121 Tue Mar 18 23:18:56 2008


Thanks Donald, I changed the directory name and didn't change the link.
VP
Message # 156710 99.207.62.221 Tue Mar 18 21:25:22 2008


Hi VP :D
You have some little red x's where I think you were planing on pics to be on the second page. And I'd label the galleries with a gallery 1 and a gallery 2 so they'll know that there is two different sets of pics so they'll come back and go to the second gallery.


Hey Voltar! You gonna do any gardening this year? I about have half the property tilled up, some maters and pepper seeds in a cold frame. I'm ready to grow something besides collards and turnips. lol

DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 156709 65.191.53.84 Tue Mar 18 21:10:24 2008


Master,

Grasshopper has finished re-doing his website, if you would take a look at it and comment on whether I have started to get the hang of it.

The new web address is http://www.venusplayhouse.com/sites/lesbian/LesbianPink/index.html

Thanks,

VP
Message # 156708 99.207.62.221 Tue Mar 18 20:53:34 2008


VP, yes, soft-core..no tits or ass even..no nudity..and or text is also ok, as long as it doesn't say anything about entering..or can be mis-construded as the entrance to your site(which is also why you don't name your sites similar to sponsors paysite names)

text you have to work at...get naughty..then get dirty..get their attention..make it short sound bites with text..(and always tell them to click)
such as for lesbian..

Tangoing twats embrace and squeeze out orgasmic results! Click and let them dance in YOUR face!

Forget fingers in leaky dykes! These Lesbians would rather use thier 3 inch clits to stick it that hole! Join here and REALLY Enjoy!

To hell with strap ons! Go with STRAP INS!! Hell Yea, click here and get it all lesbo at "sponsors site name"!

see you grab thier attention...
write your own...but look at the tour you are selling...especially the first two pages..and make it dirty..
heck get drunk..bang your head three times on your desk..and write down what comes out of your mouth..then use that :)
it works :)



Voltar (President)
Message # 156707 148.78.243.121 Tue Mar 18 20:26:43 2008


Voltar,

One question I didn't ask - you said "first tip..never have a page you can't make money off of...just because it's an entrance warning page..doesn't mean you can't advertise a sponsor..just don't show any nudity is all :)"

When you say to advertise on the warning page without nudity I assume you are referring o a soft core ad? Also, what kind of text do you normally include? (all mine sounds corny) ;-)

VP
Message # 156706 99.207.62.221 Tue Mar 18 15:27:49 2008


morning all..

VP glad to help..
by sponsor, i mean the sponsors paysites..such as thier lesbian site

and yes, each site needs it's own warning page

Voltar (President)
Message # 156705 148.78.243.123 Tue Mar 18 05:47:19 2008


Voltar,

Thanks for all the help, I will reread all the links, guess I need to slow down a little and let the info sink in. One question I would like to ask, when you say to put sponsor ad on your warning page are you talking about "text" only or banners? If banners then are these banners for Max Cash or say Lesbian Pink (example).

One last question, each "site" I build will have a warning page also, correct?

Ok, I am going back to restructure the sites and folders, I see the error of my ways....thanks for putting up with this nubbie!

VP
Message # 156704 68.24.69.187 Mon Mar 17 23:27:25 2008


VP, in the newbie quick start guide..there is a link explaining recips...here it is
http://www.vnwr.com/dfn/032404/index.html

yes, max cash is your sponsor and any link out going to any sponsor is considerd a sponsor link..
but are not recip links..
as you will find out at the link above..recip links are on your entrance pages(don't ever put them on your main pages..no matter what they ask for)..and link back to link lists you are submiting to..it's form of link trade..

you should also never build your free sites on the root of your domain..huge newbie mistake..you can make hundereds of sites on a single domain..you use subfolders/subdirectories to do this...
go here to what you should be setting your domain up like
http://www.vnwr.com/quickstart/domain/index.html
complete with graphics :)

looking at your site now..
first tip..never have a page you can't make money off of...just because it's an entrance warning page..doesn't mean you can't advertise a sponsor..most people flowing thru it will have choosen to be there already..just don't show any nudity is all :)
main page...thanks for the links back, but really not the spot for them for anyones links/recips back...recips should be for those who link back to you and send you traffic..and should only be on entrance page(s)..you'll find out more about those as you do more projects..
also..most places only allow 3 links to sponsors per page..i counted 35 links to sponsors on that page..not couting the ones back here..
note after the initial warning page, you don't need warnings on the rest of your site..or site index links..
you really need to read that newbie website link i showed below and compare it to yours..it will show you ALOT of your errors...and problems..
and where you need to further go..
hope this helps you..

Voltar (President)
Message # 156703 148.78.243.122 Mon Mar 17 22:42:00 2008


Ok folks, here is my first "there are no stupid questions" question - when you put a sponsor ad on your website, that refers to the company that you are linking to? For instance, I am getting my graphics and links from Maximum Cash, so is that whose "recips" I use? When I asked them if they have recip graphics and links they said no, so am I confused about this? Who is my sponsor?

Ok, the very basic of my site is up and running, please let me know what you think (maybe...LOL)

www.venusplayhouse.com

VP
Message # 156702 68.24.69.187 Mon Mar 17 20:43:39 2008


hi Bazz!

VP, glad to help..start with the basic free site..if you follow the tutorial, you'll get listed at 90%+ of the sites you submit to...
no one can build for all of them to accept, to many rules and over anal reviewers..

Voltar (President)
Message # 156701 148.78.243.121 Mon Mar 17 18:21:11 2008


Thanks for all the info Voltar, I understand people not being creative and just copying someone's work. I definately want it to have my own look and feel, it is just getting a feel for what links to what. I had read most of your Newbie pages and started to layout a basic shell. Part of my frustration is that there is soooo much out there, i.e. links to pics , links to movies, TGPs and lord knows what else. Where do I start, what do I focus on...how basic do I keep it and still make a little income to make it all worth it. I have a few more links to finish tonight and then I will post the website for all to view and comment on, just be gentle....LOLOL.

VP

VP
Message # 156700 68.24.69.187 Mon Mar 17 18:09:56 2008



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