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Yep Sweetness...so I do! This is a good thing...and they're still pretty close together too :)

There ya go Wolfe! The power of positive thinking can be an amazing thing! They WILL make something =)

Back to reviews!

MrYum (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 126799 69.3.238.20 Mon Feb 23 00:47:57 2004 O67


LOL it keeps giving me the same b's over again but the three that I do have are pretty close together they could make something.

"If you build it... They will come..."

Wolfe (VNWR Community Member)   fetishes
Message # 126798 4.65.96.85 Mon Feb 23 00:44:19 2004 G49


Yum, and now you have four. :)
See ya later.

Sweetness (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 126797 204.117.23.46 Mon Feb 23 00:20:24 2004 N43


Fall is HERE!
Are you ready for Winter yet?
Is your daily routine cranking out sites to get you thru this fall and into this winter?
Follow the NPOWs and get them surfers changed into members.
Get them keeping your paychecks flowing in.

VBB - a Webmaster's board bot!

The VNWR Board Bot (The Ghost of VNWR)   OT Scripts Industrial Strength
Message # 126796 127.0.0.1 Mon Feb 23 00:19:54 2004


thank you, and good night :)
Old Tom (Vice President)   Secure Scripts Industrial Strength Paysite Security
Message # 126795 209.134.132.9 Mon Feb 23 00:19:54 2004 O62


Nite OT! Thanks for sharing secrets with us. :)
Sweet html dreaming to you.

Sweetness (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 126794 204.117.23.41 Mon Feb 23 00:18:13 2004 I19


Yep...I only have 3 too, but they're pretty close to each other...lol!

Off to some site reviews...back in a bit =)

MrYum (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 126793 69.3.238.20 Mon Feb 23 00:16:58 2004 I16


Yeah Wolfe, it is hard to get good numbers when so few folks are around to play the game. I have no B's and no O's myself.
Sweetness (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 126792 204.117.23.41 Mon Feb 23 00:16:36 2004 O63


oh, by the way, the posts (both myself and Voltar) mention some ways of interlinking AVS things, that I don't think have been posted here before!


gnight all :)

Old Tom (Vice President)   Secure Scripts Industrial Strength Paysite Security
Message # 126791 209.134.132.9 Mon Feb 23 00:15:34 2004 G53


"i" is going to be the difficult one this week I have not got one of them yet...

"If you build it... They will come..."

Wolfe (VNWR Community Member)   I fetish
Message # 126790 4.65.96.85 Mon Feb 23 00:12:47 2004 B05


LOL I have only managed to get 3 numbers so far too sweetness.

"If you build it... They will come..."

Wolfe (VNWR Community Member)   number fetish
Message # 126789 4.65.96.85 Mon Feb 23 00:10:48 2004 B15


hahaha The machine hiccuped. I got that # too Mr. Yum.
Sweetness (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 126788 204.117.23.37 Mon Feb 23 00:07:43 2004 G60


Yeppers...I did snag another one at that!

Yea, the machine I built a few months ago has kinda spoiled me...running mirrored raid drives so I 'could' make a case that I'm always backed up. BUT, the case wouldn't hold water in court...lol! Way too many variables other than just a failed hard drive can occur...

As you experienced with a temp...Ouch!

Hmmm...another number perhaps?

I could really use some more content...YUM!

MrYum (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 126787 69.3.238.20 Mon Feb 23 00:00:00 2004 G59


Well, I have a grand total of three numbers on my card so far and wouldn't you know I'd get one I already have. :(
Gimme a usable number I don't have!

Sweetness (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 126786 204.117.23.17 Sun Feb 22 23:58:34 2004 G59


You're welcome Wolfe. I have a habit of following links dropped in taglines to see what I can learn from others and figured if you didn't know you'd appreciate a heads up.
Sweetness (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 126785 204.117.23.17 Sun Feb 22 23:56:15 2004 N43


Sweetness,

Slutfetish is old when those sites were still around I think they were on free hosts. Slutfetish really needs an update and possibly an overhaul thank you for reminding me. =-)

"If you build it... They will come..."

Wolfe (VNWR Community Member)   working fetish
Message # 126784 4.65.96.85 Sun Feb 22 23:52:08 2004 N38


Hi back at ya Yum! See ya snagged another one.

I learned about backups the hard way many years ago when I was a legal secretary. I was on vacation and the temp thought she was formatting a floppy disk but instead formatted the hard drive and wiped everything off my computer. Oops.

Sweetness (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 126783 204.117.23.17 Sun Feb 22 23:43:08 2004 I23


Wolfe, is your slutfetish page a work in progress? A couple of the links in the bottom table didn't work for me. Cumshot revue went to you are not authorized to view page. Foot whores went to page cannot be displayed.
Sweetness (VNWR Community Member)   workout fetish
Message # 126782 204.117.23.17 Sun Feb 22 23:39:22 2004 B08


Hi ya Sweetness!

Night Voltar...sleep well =)

Some great insights there OT! I'm definitley guilty of not backing up my content enough =/ Thanks for the reminder...think I'll be buying some CD's and doing some burning this week!

Let's see if I can snag another number...hehehe

MrYum (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 126781 69.3.238.20 Sun Feb 22 23:38:51 2004 I25


That reminds me I only have half of the Tiff files for all that pornstar content burned to CD I need to get the other 80gigs burned off in case of hard drive crash...

"If you build it... They will come..."

Wolfe (VNWR Community Member)   burning fetish
Message # 126780 4.65.96.85 Sun Feb 22 23:35:35 2004 G59


Wolfe, 'chicken before the egg' is ALWAYS a problem... :)


Another mistake we made was in losing track of the ORIGINAL zipfile of some of the content we purchased for that Triple Triple Triple. We have resized copies... but between losing a hard drive; changing servers; changing companies; we've lost the original version of some content.

We're now careful to keep both online and offline backup copies in two or three different states. Stuff happens, and we HAVE had to mail out backup disks for recovery - but we WERE prepared.

Old Tom (Vice President)   Secure Scripts Industrial Strength Paysite Security
Message # 126779 209.134.132.9 Sun Feb 22 23:26:11 2004 I19


You're welcome :)

Another mistake I made was in using sponsor-provided content. The content was fine for that particular subniche, but the *sponsor* ads were not. The result was a mis-targeted mess.

Old Tom (Vice President)   Secure Scripts Industrial Strength Paysite Security
Message # 126778 209.134.132.9 Sun Feb 22 23:21:05 2004 G56


Now the delema is... Do I stop what I'm working on now to attempt to build a premium site or finish what i'm working on and then build the premium site later...

Voltar,

Do you have any projects on building premium sites?

"If you build it... they will come..."

Wolfe (VNWR Community Member)   what fetish?
Message # 126777 4.65.96.85 Sun Feb 22 23:19:42 2004 B05


Thanks Voltar. I figured that was your feeling about my question but just wanted to be sure. Look forward to more folks showing up for the game so we can start up those things again. Nite and sweet html dreaming to you.

Makes sense to me OT. Thanks for your in-depth insights. I always learn a lot from your posts, even though there are times I don't understand what the heck you're talking about. Days, weeks, or months later a light bulb will go off, so that's what he was talking about.

Sweetness (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 126776 204.117.23.17 Sun Feb 22 23:17:53 2004 N36


Speaking of Triple Triple Triples...

perhaps I should do a series of posts on mistakes *I* made on the first triple triple triple...

Well.

Each subniche gets divided into three freesites. So, I bought a photoset for that subniche with enough pics to make a premium AVS site (which, at the time, needed 100 pics). That way I get the premium AVS site, at least three freesites, with the possibility of small AVS sites, tgp galleries, whatever.

Sounds good... didn't work out so well.

Do you see the problem?

All three sites in the subniche came from the same photoset! And, they were trying to upsell the same premium AVS site! If the sales pitch didn't work on the *first* freesite, why in the world is it going to work on the *second* freesite?

Think about it. The (hopefully) like the subniche - that's how they got there. If they don't like *this* portrayal of the subniche, let them look for something else **in the same subniche**. The trouble was, I wasn't giving them anything else in the same subniche! I was giving them more of the same stuff they already declined to nibble on.

So, if your subniche has three different sites, you probably need three DIFFERENT sets of content. Perhaps you can mix and match *elsewhere* in that niche, in a different subniche, but not in the *same* subniche.

If you're at the car dealer, and you can't sell THIS car, try 'em on a different car of similar type. Walk right past that cool pickup to see if it catches their eye. That's the reason for using three wildly different niches in the Triple Triple Triple. Put gay up against bbw against feet/legs/stockings. Make them RADICALLY different so that it's EASY for them to choose between the three.

But once you have it narrowed down to your pantyhose subniche, don't do all three sites from the same photoset! Two of those sites were a waste of time.

That's one of the many things I learned with *my* first Triple Triple Triple.

Old Tom (Vice President)   Secure Scripts Industrial Strength Paysite Security
Message # 126775 209.134.132.9 Sun Feb 22 23:01:55 2004 O62


yo yo yo,

gotta go go go

mikeyddddd (VNWR Community Member)   almost done porn star
Message # 126774 4.12.160.167 Sun Feb 22 23:01:47 2004 B05


sweetness..if they pick up a bit and we have serveral people at teh same time who would be interested in taht, we might go for it...but as it seems to be strung out a tad still yet..we will just have to wait and see :)

zzz's all..

Voltar (President)
Message # 126773 148.78.245.11 Sun Feb 22 22:59:42 2004 B01


Hi Yum! See there, you got a # on your first try.
Sweetness (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 126772 204.117.23.17 Sun Feb 22 22:58:41 2004 I26


For those just getting here, Jump right in!
We are playing a regular game of bingo today.
For bingo info and card go here
http://www.vnwr.com/bingo/index.html

The prize for todays bingo is $50 in photo content from
Focus Adult
http://www.focusadult.com
High quality content to make your websites come alive!
Check out our specials today!

Thanks Craig!


Voltar (President)
Message # 126771 148.78.245.11 Sun Feb 22 22:58:01 2004 I28


Evening All :)

Hey there Alan! Good to see ya!

Welcome Peter! Yep, you've found a great place to learn and to grow :)

Hi Voltar, OT, Wolfe, Robbo, Codegreen...and anyone else I missed!

Hmmm...think I'll grab a card too...building TTT's uses a lot of content! hehe

MrYum (VNWR Community Member)   free porn post galleries
Message # 126770 69.3.238.20 Sun Feb 22 22:48:26 2004 B04


We've now outlived two AVSs doing that!
Old Tom (Vice President)   Secure Scripts Industrial Strength Paysite Security
Message # 126769 209.134.132.9 Sun Feb 22 22:43:05 2004 N43


Old Tom,

You are a mind reader I was contemplating something like that with the free and AVS sites advertising it...I've experimented with that a little bit before...

"If you build it... They will come..."

Wolfe (VNWR Community Member)   mind reading fetish
Message # 126768 4.65.96.85 Sun Feb 22 22:38:24 2004 I19


Sounds like you might want to set it up as a premium avs site. Perhaps with alternate tours? One tour selling *her* (as an amateur, I should guess), the other tour selling the facial or whatever. Hold enough content back so you can do monthly (or whatever) content updates.

Create your own banners, sell yourself as the sponsor. That's what Jojasa does quite successfully, with our premium AVS sites.

Old Tom (Vice President)   Secure Scripts Industrial Strength Paysite Security
Message # 126767 209.134.132.9 Sun Feb 22 22:21:49 2004 I21


Well, seems I have 1250 photos of this amateur ending in a facial so I think I can put the galleries together for this site and get it rolling the key here is to get two facial galleries out of it without giving it all away...

hmmm raining out... 2 for 1 subs at subway...

"If you build it... They will come..."

Wolfe (VNWR Community Member)   photo fetish
Message # 126766 4.65.96.85 Sun Feb 22 22:14:12 2004 I28


Hollering Hot Beds of Hosting Specials
Yea Board Bot LIKE!

They give me warm diodes!
VBB

The VNWR Board Bot (The Ghost of VNWR)   OT Scripts Industrial Strength
Message # 126765 127.0.0.1 Sun Feb 22 21:54:55 2004


Voltar, do you have plans to do any text link exercises and such in future boingo games? I miss that now that we have moved to Sunday games.
Sweetness (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 126764 204.117.23.17 Sun Feb 22 21:54:55 2004 I29


Too many projects, not enough time.
Sweetness (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 126763 204.117.23.17 Sun Feb 22 21:53:07 2004 N43


Voltar,

Not mixing them nope. Just have read a bunch of them and have them all wandering around in my head so when I hit something that poses a question about one I ask...

"If you build it...They will come..."

Wolfe (VNWR Community Member)   mixing fetish
Message # 126762 4.65.96.85 Sun Feb 22 21:30:37 2004 B13


Hey Gang,
Welcome Peter! Good luck getting started, you've found the right resource and thats half the battle!

The weekend got completely away from me and I realized just now that I missed The Simpsons AND I almost missed LTS! But I got in just in time for lucky number 13 on your hit parade.... :)

Had an interesting conversation with a certain well-known free-cam sponsor on Thursday, complaining that my conversion ratios had gone from 1:100 to 1:1200 with them over the course of a few weeks with NO changes on my side.
Magically since that little talk my conversions have popped right back up to the good levels.

Makes me go "Hmmmmm."
Could be a coincidence, but sure seems suspicious.

Anyway, hope everyone had a great weekend and is all geared up for a week of slingin' porn to the masses!!!!

codegreen
Message # 126761 69.140.207.45 Sun Feb 22 20:57:35 2004 G53


Evening...Hi Alan!

I`m back from din din and might be ready to try and catch some numbers!

Your getting me in the mood to build some triples again!

Robbo (Editor DFN Weekly)
Message # 126760 68.65.10.74 Sun Feb 22 20:54:02 2004 N44


oh and Wolfe..be sure not to mix NPOWs..previously you were asking about the duel avs npow..and then went on to the triples npow...
just be sure not to mix the two..they each have thier specific purposes :)

Voltar (President)
Message # 126759 148.78.245.13 Sun Feb 22 20:50:53 2004 O71


oh yea, for the triples, if you add in the multiple avs entrances the interlinking can get extremly complicated...
and truth be known..reg. avs entrance sales are alsmot never high, and don't compare to the sponsor sales you could make but bar them from, from the additional filtering that the triples project does...basicly use them for traffic (the avs entrances) and for some SE listings and you will probably get the best use from them..

or you can do the rotating FPAs like in the T2 triples project ..and build yourself duel hubing structures..where one is free site and one is avs oriented, according to which FPA pops up..

as Old Tom pointed out..there is a vast number of interlinking and such you can do with them, if you are so inclined to..

as far as premium avs sites go..treat them just like you would a sponsor.. :)

Voltar (President)
Message # 126758 148.78.245.13 Sun Feb 22 20:49:20 2004 G58


Voltar's the interlinking guru... hopefully he can expand on my post below!
Old Tom (Vice President)   Secure Scripts Industrial Strength Paysite Security
Message # 126757 209.134.132.9 Sun Feb 22 20:39:29 2004 G54


Wolfe...

To the best of my recollection, the Triples Project itself only uses freesites. Voltar and I have been discussing various ways of doing the AVS entrances, for going on four years now! How you handle those, rather depends on your purpose in the AVS sales.

Let's assume you're doing a Triple Triple Triple. Therefore the normal instructions are to take the freesite, and link it (1) back to that niche's niche hub, and (2) link it to each of the other two freesites in that subniche.

When you (2) link it to the other freesite, you link it *through* a targeted full page ad, to the no-recip entrance of the site. No need to send your own internal traffic back out to somebody else's linklist!

But... what to do with the AVS entrances. Here are some possibilities.

A. Make the no-recip entrance (index.html) an AVS entrance. Thus, when the freesite links (2) to the other two freesites, they're linking to the AVS entrance. In other words, each freesite links to the other two *AVS* sites in that subniche. Could be a good way to sell AVS memberships.

B. Link (2) to the freesite entrances, but let the niche hub (1) link to the AVS entrances. This would be another way of sending your internal traffic to the AVS entrances.

C. Link only to freesite entrances. The AVS entrances are basically stand-alone pages. Traffic comes there from SEs, linklists, and the AVS listing itself - but none of your own internal traffic goes to those entrances.

D. Play the AVSs against each other. If they came in with a FreeNetPass pass, link only to the CyberAge entrance of other sites, and vice versa. Since the surfer signed up with one AVS, perhaps they'll sign up with a second AVS, or third, or fourth. Of course if you're not careful when you play one AVS against another, you can piss EVERYONE off in the process. That's never a good thing :)

Old Tom (Vice President)   Secure Scripts Industrial Strength Paysite Security
Message # 126756 209.134.132.9 Sun Feb 22 20:36:51 2004 G57


For those just getting here, Jump right in!
We are playing a regular game of bingo today.
For bingo info and card go here
http://www.vnwr.com/bingo/index.html

The prize for todays bingo is $50 in photo content from
Focus Adult
http://www.focusadult.com
High quality content to make your websites come alive!
Check out our specials today!

Thanks Craig!


Voltar (President)
Message # 126755 148.78.245.13 Sun Feb 22 20:27:45 2004 O73


wolfe...post 126740
yea that would do as an AVS site for you to use in the duel avs project..but what makes the difference is the second site ..they need to be distinctivly different but of the same simalar type..so cross interest is there..
it's all in the balance of catching those surfers taht the first tour wasn't thier exact cup of tea..

Voltar (President)
Message # 126754 148.78.245.13 Sun Feb 22 20:26:33 2004 G59


Geez this place is being stingy with the numbers I need today. only one number sofar.

"If you build it... They will come..."

Wolfe (VNWR Community Member)   number fetish
Message # 126753 4.65.96.85 Sun Feb 22 20:19:45 2004 O71


Old Tom,

So do the triple interlinking pages as instructed but don't link to the index pages of the directory save that for the AVS entrance?

"If you build it... They will come..."

Wolfe (VNWR Community Member)   link fetish
Message # 126752 4.65.96.85 Sun Feb 22 20:17:34 2004 O69


Which essay? Jojasa Has Legs? I'd have to go back and look at the context. Don't recall for sure if I was mixing AVS and freesite entrances at the time.

With the Triples, you definitely want to do the interlinking as assigned in the Triples Project. I'm hedging the answer here, because the assigned interlinking is DIFFERENT depending on whether we're talking the single Triple, the Triple Triple, or the Triple Triple Triple.

In a freesite, generally speaking, we don't intend for the surfer to find his or her way back to the same freesite. We want to get them targeted to whatever it is they're most anxiously looking for, and off to the sponsor offering that thing IMMEDIATELY, soon as they whip out that credit card.

I may not have answered your question. If not, please ask again :)

Old Tom (Vice President)   Secure Scripts Industrial Strength Paysite Security
Message # 126751 209.134.132.9 Sun Feb 22 20:08:17 2004 G56


Old Tom,

In your Essay you state that they never get to see your free sites again. Is this something you would suggest for the interlinking in the triples?
I alright do this with my slutfetish link list it only lists sites that I use a certain AVS but was never sure about doing this inside the triples?

"If you build it... They will come..."

Wolfe (VNWR Community Member)   learning fetish
Message # 126750 4.65.96.85 Sun Feb 22 19:49:38 2004 B09


hi Sweetness!
Old Tom (Vice President)   Secure Scripts Industrial Strength Paysite Security
Message # 126749 209.134.132.9 Sun Feb 22 19:30:43 2004 G55


Hi OT!
Thanks Wolfe.
Mikeyddddd, munchies, mmmm, I'm hungry. Time to fix something to eat myself.
Later y'all!

Sweetness (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 126748 204.117.23.17 Sun Feb 22 19:11:52 2004 I19


Mickeyddddd,

Exactly with HTML going out (because it is a mess LOL) The replacement is not forgiving about breaking the rules so if you get in the habit of doing it right in the first place you will have no problems in the future. I myself was guilty of the uppercase tags until I read in one of my php books why he encouraged people not to...

it is true though that HTML is a very messy language which leads to some of the incompatibilities in browsers. This browsers doesn't allow for this optional coding that browser doesn't allow it but allows another...
XHTML like XML there is only one way to do it and only that way will work.

"Nobody owns anything and all anyone has is the use of his presumed possessions"

Wolfe (VNWR Community Member)   wet t-shirt
Message # 126747 4.65.96.85 Sun Feb 22 19:08:50 2004 B06


Sweatness,

Honestly I'm not sure I put that up while I was dwindling off into programming for hire and never really got much to that site... I mainly put it there for lack of my own mainstream thing to put there but I'm working on that... until then though I will play around with that and let you know.

"If you build it... They will come..."

Wolfe (VNWR Community Member)   always facials
Message # 126746 4.65.96.85 Sun Feb 22 18:41:10 2004 I24


yeppers, that's uno

starbucks is too far for my lazy ass - couple miles - and i was too stupid to think of paper towels - but i got munchies at the store, too

mikeyddddd (VNWR Community Member)   porn pics
Message # 126745 4.12.160.167 Sun Feb 22 18:32:23 2004 N35


try again, Sweetness!
Old Tom (Vice President)   Secure Scripts Industrial Strength Paysite Security
Message # 126744 209.134.132.9 Sun Feb 22 17:58:41 2004 O68


Hi mikeyddddd! Where's the closest St*rb*cks? Don't forget about your paper towels. They come in handy for lots of things.

Got a number didn't ya. Let's see if it works for me. Gimme a number!

Sweetness (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 126743 204.117.23.17 Sun Feb 22 17:55:34 2004 G60


whoza? whatzis?

are ya talking abut xhtml and wingnut's dfn article?

http://www.vnwr.com/dfn/100103/index.html

wolfe,
doh! now ya tell me

gimme a numba

mikeyddddd (VNWR Community Member)   i got a porn star magazine to publish
Message # 126742 4.12.160.167 Sun Feb 22 17:04:54 2004 O64


Hello Again Y'All!

Wolfe, that's an interesting exit link on your tagline site in post #126733. Does it pull much? I recognize that couple in the top banner. They are on a lot of different banners advertising lots of different stuff. Just proves another of Voltar's points, get lots of mileage from your photos and weave whatever story you want with them. :)

Sweetness (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 126741 204.117.23.17 Sun Feb 22 16:45:14 2004 N37


Voltar,

I'm mean the one in my link would it be a candidate for the dual avs tour?

"If you build it... They will come..."

Wolfe (VNWR Community Member)   tits and facials
Message # 126740 4.65.96.85 Sun Feb 22 16:43:35 2004 O61


wolfe..the one linked...from the dual avs tour npow...would it be a canidate for.. what???

Voltar (President)
Message # 126739 148.78.245.11 Sun Feb 22 16:35:48 2004 G47


For those just getting here, Jump right in!
We are playing a regular game of bingo today.
For bingo info and card go here
http://www.vnwr.com/bingo/index.html

The prize for todays bingo is $50 in photo content from
Focus Adult
http://www.focusadult.com
High quality content to make your websites come alive!
Check out our specials today!

Thanks Craig!


Voltar (President)
Message # 126738 148.78.245.11 Sun Feb 22 16:33:38 2004 I16


It's Sunday, always an inspirational day for building porn.
JeffG   spider drop
Message # 126737 67.161.124.74 Sun Feb 22 16:24:52 2004 I28


Alan, your second note got trapped in the spamcatcher. You should hear from me in a moment :)
Old Tom (Vice President)   Secure Scripts Industrial Strength Paysite Security
Message # 126736 209.134.132.9 Sun Feb 22 16:13:02 2004 N33


ChristyB,

Yeah, that is about it... I find it quicker to code their page from scratch than to redo their code.

"If you build it... They will come..."

Wolfe (VNWR Community Member)   code fetish
Message # 126735 4.65.96.85 Sun Feb 22 16:07:00 2004 B03


Hi all,

I was suddenly dragged away for a couple of hours, sorry about that - lol

Knight - I've been with M3 for some time now and was keen to get a dedicated server but not quite ready yet... but the deal they offered was far too good to resist :)
I had a few problems with email communication recently (It was my isp at fault, not M3)... fortunately Merlin was able to fix it :)
I just haven't had enough spare time to deal with moving the files yet :)

Voltar - 126711 - I know (& mentioned) it was Doghouse Dan's tutorial; I just thought you might have access to it but most of all I was curious about the lack of "" in the code because I've seen a lot of it in sponsor fpa codes (older ones) - :)

OT - 126714 - Aha... lol - thanks :)
Voltar - 126715 - I didn't realise they were using automated builders... Seems a waste of time to me, they're so easy to write!

Hi Sweetness - thanks :)

Wolfe - 126724 - That's interesting, I often do my tags in caps, don't know why, just cause it looks neater I think :)
I agree about the fpas... I find it far quicker to build my own than take those and fix them, I spent over two hours fixing one up once... I could've built 3 or 4 from scratch in that time!

OT - 126725 - That is interesting... I use a free software prog to write my pages in, it doesn't generate code but it color codes it to help identify errors and is brilliant for organising code snippets etc and it always highlights tags which aren't inside "" so I always use them!

ChristyB (VNWR Community Member)   Sex World
Message # 126734 82.33.44.221 Sun Feb 22 15:42:12 2004 O61


Doh,

Voltar, back to the dual tour discussion for avs would the one linked make a good canidate or am I off on my own thing again? LOL

"If you build it... They will come..."

Wolfe (VNWR Community Member)   dual tour
Message # 126733 4.65.96.85 Sun Feb 22 15:33:33 2004 O62


Voltar,

THANKS I'll email him now, also I stopped by and forgot to WELCOME Peter who I sent here LOL, sorry I am getting old and forgetful hehe, you are in the reigh tplace with the right people, again Welcome to the VNWR family Alan

Alan aka COBRA
Message # 126732 205.188.209.46 Sun Feb 22 15:21:11 2004 G49


Hi Alan!
drop Old Tom an email at oldtom@vnwr.com for your tag..

on the domain and the image showing up..make sure you have the right extension on it..such as .jpg or .gif and watch, becasue they are case sensitive..
.jpg and .JPG are NOT the same thing...
you should also make sure your domain has propagated and is live, or you will get some of those broken graphics not showing up until it is...takes 2-3 days after the transfer/domain sign up.. for the DNS to be complete...sometimes a bit longer if theres a weekend involved, i've noticed..
but yes if it's there in the folder, then it should be able to pull it right up from your own domain that way..

Voltar (President)
Message # 126731 148.78.245.12 Sun Feb 22 15:14:23 2004 I17


my TGP2 friends you all have mail with my newest list of tgp2 galleries..thanks!

wolfe..not gone away..just dropping the dime on a dozen new tgp2 galleries is all and finsihing the submits on a tgp gallery as well..
and some SE work as well..

:)

Voltar (President)   black girl tgp2 gallery
Message # 126730 148.78.245.12 Sun Feb 22 15:08:16 2004 O74


Voltar, Tom, Jo, Sweetness & all,


Its been so long i forgot my sign in stuff for being a member :(,
Hiyas, yes I am still alive LOL, I do miss you all and guess what imma not going to play bingo today so dont worry you all have a chance (ex BINGO KING) hehe, I have finally after 5 years moved from free to paid hosting OMG yes I know you are all in shock but I did LOL, now comes the wonderful task of moving over 25 sites to the new host, banners, stories, etc whew I know this is going to take like forever but hey weill see what happens, I am hoping that things turn out the way I plan LOL, ok I do have a problem however I set up my domain like the newbie thing said placing all my banners in a banners file but...I cant get them to image :~( can anyone tell me how I use to do this <img src="http://www.yourdomain.com/banners/bannername"><a> but it dont work helppppppppp LOL please either post what to do here or please email me, I hope everyone has been doing well, Johnathan (my partner & I) are great, he got promoted to asst. mgr. at work, we just got approved for our first mortage so we are looking to buy our first home :), and of course I have all thsi stuff to transfer plus work part time at the store cashiering that he manages um does anyone have any extra time they can spare me LOL, I wish you all the best in your business endeavors and as soon as I can get back here and spend more time I will because truly VNWR rocks for newbies and has taught me so much in so little time I will never be able to THANK you all enough, have a great day and GOOD LUCK at BINGO, Ok enough of my novel LMFAO, (((HUGS))) Alan aka COBRA~~~~~~~~~~~>

Alan aka COBRA
Message # 126729 205.188.209.46 Sun Feb 22 15:03:02 2004 B06


Hi all!

I`m headed out for dinner with my father this evening but will be bac later. Save a few numbers for me!

Robbo (Editor DFN Weekly)
Message # 126728 68.65.10.74 Sun Feb 22 15:00:00 2004 N32


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Message # 126727 209.215.97.54 Sun Feb 22 14:58:55 2004 G56


alright what happended here? Did I come into the room and everyone leave? I took a show this morning?

well off to build some sites and other projects...

"If you build it... They will come..."

Wolfe (VNWR Community Member)   Tits and facials
Message # 126726 4.65.96.85 Sun Feb 22 14:58:09 2004 N44


If I recall correctly, the "current" html standard says that you don't need quotes around things which consist of ONLY letters and numbers. If there's a dot, slash, dash, whatever, in the item, it's supposed to be inside quotes.


Old Tom (Vice President)   Secure Scripts Industrial Strength Paysite Security
Message # 126725 209.134.132.9 Sun Feb 22 14:56:39 2004 B10


ChristyB,

You will notice that with alot of old HTML and also another one is TAGS ALL IN CAPS... both of these are not a good practice. The programmer at work always tells me that the quotes are optional but they are not and may only result in html not displaying right for now but future versions of HTML they may not display at all... The same with the tag all in capitols, there have been hints that in future versions of HTML they maynot work or may have a different meaning... And don't get me started on sponsors LOL on of the sponsors on this board is a big offender in that department every time I goto use on of there full page ads I need to recode it. looking at the code drives me nuts and when I'm done I have half the amount of code and it all works proper... They need to stop using Front page or whatever "Designer" program they are useing... </rant>

Guys and Gals learn to do it right the first time saves time coming back to fix it later or loosing half you empire cause suddenly the pages don't work right. =-)

"If you build it... They will come..."



Guys and Gals learn to do it right the first time it saves

Wolfe (VNWR Community Member)   From Russia with Love
Message # 126724 4.65.96.85 Sun Feb 22 14:47:45 2004 O75


Mickeyddddd,

Paper towel makes a good coffee filtre in a pinch.

"If you build it... They will come..."

Wolfe (VNWR Community Member)   Coffee Quest
Message # 126723 4.65.96.85 Sun Feb 22 14:31:29 2004 N44


LOL
the lizard and the cat are already to oversee work today... 4 foot lizard is all layed out in the sun on the heating pad on the end of my desk watching the computer screen while she dozes. The cat is all cuddled up to her with her tail wrapped over the lizards head like a fur scarf.

"If you build it... They will come..."

Wolfe (VNWR Community Member)   Lizard Fetish
Message # 126722 4.65.96.85 Sun Feb 22 14:28:05 2004 O61


yea wolfe..it's been more than 14 days so you can :)

good post Sare!

Voltar (President)
Message # 126721 148.78.245.12 Sun Feb 22 14:24:42 2004 G59


It has been more than 14days since the last focus adult I can win this one right?

"If you build it... They will come..."

Wolfe (VNWR Community Member)   Bingo Fetish
Message # 126720 4.65.96.85 Sun Feb 22 14:22:38 2004 B15


Hi Peter :)

Welcome to the board......

You get your banners from the sponsor site....

For example:

If you signed up for cloudcash http://www.cloudcash.com/index.html On the cloudcash site you will see a link called "banners". If you click on it, it will take you to a page where you can go get banners for any of the sites in the cloudcash portfolio.

Pick the site you want banners for and click the link for that site. It will take you to a page of banners for the site. Pick which banner you want. Point your mouse at the banner, right click and pick "save picture as" and save it to a directory on your hard drive.

To link the banner:

First of all, when you sign up for a sponsor, you should see a page called "linking codes", this will give you the link to the site that will allow the sponsor to track that it is you who sent the click to them.

The html to link up is something like this...

<a href="http://yourlinkingcode_from_the_sponsor_goes_here">a text link goes here above the banner<br><img src="http://your_Banner_location_and_name_goes_here"><br>a text link goes here below the banner</a>

There are some good tips in this NPOW :

http://www.vnwr.com/npows/bhtml.html

and make sure to read the newbie quick start guide:
http://www.vnwr.com/quickstart/index.html

and the newbie tutorials:
http://www.vnwr.com/resources/tutorials/index.html

Good info in the basic html tutorial courtesy of doghouse dan:

http://www.vnwr.com/resources/tutorials/basic_html.html

Hope that helps you get started :)



sarettah (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 126719 66.140.68.101 Sun Feb 22 13:58:07 2004 O69


I know this may sound silly .....how do I get the banners etc from a sponsor and how do i link to their sites. I'm trying to follow the project of the week. I sent your regards to Alan, thanks
Peter
Message # 126718 195.93.34.8 Sun Feb 22 13:25:05 2004 G51


Good Afternoon Y'All!

Welcome Peter! You have found the greatest place on the net to learn to earn. Tell Alan that Sweetness said Hi.

Congrats on #1 ChristyB!

Hi Knight. I agree, tis great to wake up and find you've been making $$$ while you slept.

Hi Voltar, hi OT, hi mikeyddddd.

Time to go climb the stairs and get some exercise. Living in a 9 story high rise has its advantages in that the emergency exit stairs makes a wonderful built in stair climber and I get a great view of the bay at the same time.

Sweetness (VNWR Community Member)   spider drop
Message # 126717 204.117.23.35 Sun Feb 22 13:25:02 2004 B14


good afternoon world

Hi Peter, welcome to the board. Tell the Gr8Cobra Jo said hi too!


Jojasa (Vice President)   hot sluts
Message # 126716 64.135.203.99 Sun Feb 22 13:13:25 2004 O67


Cool Peter, glad we could help man!
and yea they are a good host :)

Yea old Tom, i agree, some of the worst coding i've seen has been from some of the automated FPA builders.....it's like they used front page and made it even worse in some cases..

Voltar (President)
Message # 126715 148.78.245.11 Sun Feb 22 12:19:17 2004 G49


Welcome, Peter!

Yes, please tell Gr8Cobra that Old Tom says hi too!

ChristyB (126703) - I had assumed at the time, that it was the fault of the software used to build the FPA's (not putting in quotes). That was just as incorrect then as now :)



Old Tom (Vice President)   Secure Scripts Industrial Strength Paysite Security
Message # 126714 209.134.132.9 Sun Feb 22 11:46:30 2004 B09


Thanks for the advice Voltar, I am learning fast......this site has more info in one place than the hundreds of sites I've visited in the past put together. I was just looking at the prices of the M3 servers and think I will be there soon he he.

Peter
Message # 126713 195.93.34.8 Sun Feb 22 11:32:17 2004 O64


For those just getting here, Jump right in!
We are playing a regular game of bingo today.
For bingo info and card go here
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The prize for todays bingo is $50 in photo content from
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Thanks Craig!


Voltar (President)
Message # 126712 148.78.245.13 Sun Feb 22 11:01:47 2004 I29


Hi Knight!

ChristyB..thats not mine..doghouse dan made that..as such i don't edit them..
but i do have teh tables NPOW that covers much other things that you can find and use with tables as well :)

peter.l..nope a dedicated is something you will move into down the road..as a brand new webmaster, you should stick with the virtual hosting you have now, until you get it profitable and growing..and then you will grow into it :)

Voltar (President)
Message # 126711 148.78.245.13 Sun Feb 22 11:01:21 2004 N40


Morning Peter,
A "dedicated" server is not something you need at the start. You have a server, thats what your host has your sites set up on. That is shared with others, where dedicated is just that, dedicated to just your stuff. I am sure I could have waited, but the offer with M3 was just to good to pass. Just don't do free hosting for your sites.
Good Luck.

Knight
Message # 126710 216.146.125.138 Sun Feb 22 10:50:47 2004 G57


Hello ChristyB,
That had to be one of the scariest things for me. I don't have a ton of stuff just yet, but sales were coming along, my other host had been great(I just could not turn down M3's offer for the money)and I was so afraid of any downtime. I moved one of my newest domains first, just to get the feel, Corey was great. Then I took the plunge with my main sites, no trouble at all.

The response time from M3 is great, so have no fear.

Knight   Tittie Patch (for the bigins')
Message # 126709 216.146.125.138 Sun Feb 22 10:42:50 2004 N34


I know it must be obvious to you people but I would like to know what is a dedicated server. Do I need one to begin this venture? I have purchased a domain and hosting but a server is not something that I've had the pleasure of yet please advise !!
Peter
Message # 126708 195.93.34.8 Sun Feb 22 10:41:32 2004 O73


Hi Knight,
My dedicated M3 server is set up too... I just haven't managed to find time to move my sites there yet :(

ChristyB (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 126707 82.33.44.221 Sun Feb 22 10:34:37 2004 O65


I think one of the best parts of this job is waking up in the morning and finding that you have made money, while asleep at that. So here I am, sites are on my own dedicated server,thanks M3 and sales are going steady since the new year. Man what a life!
Knight
Message # 126706 216.146.125.138 Sun Feb 22 10:29:33 2004 G58


Good Morning gang. Welcome Peter, this is the place.
Knight   Sexy Tanline
Message # 126705 216.146.125.138 Sun Feb 22 10:20:42 2004 B06


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Message # 126704 209.215.97.54 Sun Feb 22 09:21:53 2004 G48


Hey Voltar...
I just noticed two things about that tutorial that could use fixing:
1. It has two item number 5's!
2. The table codes don't contain "" around the elements and (that's probably why) the border color doesn't work!

Never spotted that when I used it 18 months ago...

I notice a lot of sponsor fpa codes and such don't include the ""... is that becasue they weren't necessary for earlier browsers or something?

ChristyB (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 126703 82.33.44.221 Sun Feb 22 09:01:31 2004 N37


Peter...
thers a link on the bingo page for your card..print it out and i suggest writting your post number on the number when you get it...it makes it easier idf you win and need to post your post numbers so we can check your bingo :)

a reminder to new players...you can only use numbers on your own posts to make a bingo :)

Voltar (President)
Message # 126702 148.78.245.11 Sun Feb 22 08:49:32 2004 B02


There's a fab tutorial from Doghouse Dan that lays out tables really well - it's item 5 here: http://www.vnwr.com/resources/tutorials/basic_html.html
ChristyB (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 126701 82.33.44.221 Sun Feb 22 08:49:20 2004 I27


Thanks Voltar for that welcome, I feel at home already and believe me, I will be firing ? after ? to you folks here @ VNWR
Peter
Message # 126700 195.93.34.8 Sun Feb 22 08:47:18 2004 I29



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