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lol Voltar... she's fat :)
ChristyB (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 126599 82.33.44.221 Fri Feb 20 21:54:11 2004


Hi ChristyB...
how's that mother to be getting along?

Voltar (President)
Message # 126598 148.78.245.11 Fri Feb 20 21:52:56 2004


Hi ChristyB! Live DFN content I like that!

Yeah it will be there for those who may miss it going by on the board that way too! Bailey is off from writing for a bit also but she has alot of gems yet to be dug up..I think I`m about ready for a feng shui refresher!

Robbo (Editor DFN Weekly)
Message # 126597 68.65.10.74 Fri Feb 20 21:52:51 2004


Hi vnwr :)

Jimmer - Congrat's :)
sare - Hi :)
Jojasa - Shoot the dog :)
mikeyddddd - Hi big boy :)
Sweetness - Nice to see you :)
Robbo - Nice dfn :)
bazz - Must be frustrating :(
codegreen - sorry, no time to reply :)
OT - Live DFN content :)
Voltar - Hi :)

That reminds me - when I was 7 my nickname was sunshine - 'cos I was always :)'ing
(Awww)...


ChristyB (VNWR Community Member)   A Passion 4 Porn
Message # 126596 82.33.44.221 Fri Feb 20 21:49:22 2004


hehehe..i thought so too :)

Voltar (President)
Message # 126595 148.78.245.11 Fri Feb 20 21:41:22 2004


Robbo, as I was typing, I figured you might... go for it. Twas intended to be useful :)



Hiya Jimmer, and congrats from me too!!!





Old Tom (Vice President)   Secure Scripts Industrial Strength Paysite Security
Message # 126594 209.134.132.9 Fri Feb 20 21:33:40 2004


Cool Jimmer!

OldTom great post..I know I have a place for that somewhere! :)

I`m just getting settled to work in but do need to get to bed somewhat early. I have to get up earlier than usual and that`s never fun.

Robbo (Editor DFN Weekly)
Message # 126593 68.65.10.74 Fri Feb 20 21:31:56 2004


hi Jimmer!


Voltar (President)
Message # 126592 148.78.245.12 Fri Feb 20 21:14:42 2004


Nice post OT!


Voltar (President)
Message # 126591 148.78.245.12 Fri Feb 20 21:12:47 2004


Thanks everyone. If you need something, I'm always around. Its good to keep busy!
Jimmer (M3Server.com)
Message # 126590 67.71.152.218 Fri Feb 20 21:11:30 2004


Why do a Triple Triple Triple?
What if you don't get it right the first try?

...and the answer is....

You won't get it right the first time. It's *designed* that way.

What do *I* know about Triples? Well... I did the first one. I did the prototype, as assigned by Voltar, four years ago. Look for "Jojasa Has Legs" in the resource section, or click here:

http://www.vnwr.com/oldtom/jojasa.html

Did I do the first Triple Triple Triple correctly? HELL NO.

So what's the point?

The Triple Triple Triple does tend to make money. That's good. But more importantly, the Triple Triple Triple is designed to teach specific skills. What are those skills? We're not telling! They're buried within the project.

Key #1 is to do the project **as assigned**. Do the Triple correctly, and *then* begin the Triple Triple. Once you get *that* correct, *then* you'll be ready for the Triple Triple Triple.

Why is this?

One of the keys to the Triple Triple Triple, is search engine traffic management. But... how will you learn what you need to know about traffic, unless you *observe* it?

For example. Pastaboy does very well with a certain sponsor. He showed me. Jojasa and I, on the other hand gave it an excellent shot, and got NOTHING. We switched to another sponsor - same sites, same traffic - and immediately made money. My point is that the other guy's traffic doesn't matter. It's *my* traffic that I need to learn. What works for *me*.

The Triples Project does that for you. Let me explain.

Step One is to learn to correctly interpret Voltarese. When I read one of Voltar's projects, I don't always "get it" the first time. Or, more likely, I get it, but I get it *wrong*. That doesn't mean it's a bad project, not by any means! Nor will further explanation help. No, it's when I *do* the project, that I can be helped. Voltar (or anyone else who has done the project correctly), can look at what I did, and then point me in the right direction.

But there's more to it than that. The way I did it wrong, also shows *what* was misunderstood, and what needs to be done to correct it. Perhaps I misinterpreted what was said; perhaps I skipped a step; perhaps I purposely wasn't listening. Most likely, I had a blind spot. Like anyone else, I'll go with what's easiest for me.

So, step one is to do the single Triple correctly, as assigned. Strangely enough, and many VNWR people will bear witness to this, nobody wants to follow the instructions!!! They'll choose niches NOT on the list. Or try this shortcut or that.

And you know what? That's okay. The wasted effort *is* educational. And, on a single Triple, it's no big deal to start over. After all, you'll be ahead of the game when you start over, because you learned something.

So. You've done your first Triple. And - this is most important - had it checked, and certified as Correct. You've done the SE and linklist submits, and whatever else was assigned. With that Triple, you're DONE.

And... you're ready for the Triple Triple!

It's a bit bigger, no big deal; you'll have trouble and get frustrated, but the help is available. Just ask!

Meanwhile, though, you can watch and LEARN from that single Triple. That is, watch the traffic! What can you learn from your own stats? What's working; what's NOT working, for you? You need to apply that learning to building your triple triple. But if you never built the single Triple, how are you going to get the learning to apply?

And, with the Triple Triple Triple, it's the same way. You need to do the single Triple, and the Triple Triple, to gain a certain skill level. If you've not done a Triple Triple correctly, chances are very good you'll have an unholy mess on your hands as you try to interlink a Triple Triple Triple. How do you keep track of those hundreds and hundreds of pages.

But, once it's built, the whole point of your Triple Triple Triple, is traffic flow. Well, the point is making money, but that comes from sales, and the sales come from traffic flow. In other words, study your working Triple and working Triple Triple, as you're building your TTT. Get your mistakes and misunderstandings out of the way on the single and double.

That's what makes the Triple Triple Triple such an accomplishment. Sure, it's a big project, but you LEARN so much along the way, that its profitability is really only the beginning.

Old Tom (Vice President)   Secure Scripts Industrial Strength Paysite Security
Message # 126589 209.134.132.9 Fri Feb 20 21:03:41 2004


BTW..been catching up on some emails..several of you have mail back.. :)

Voltar (President)
Message # 126588 148.78.245.12 Fri Feb 20 20:55:39 2004


Hi OT!
yea.. triples are always good :)

Voltar (President)
Message # 126587 148.78.245.12 Fri Feb 20 20:48:10 2004


evening everybody!

I see I have some typing to do here about Triples and Triple Triple Triples... be back in a few...

Old Tom (Vice President)   Secure Scripts Industrial Strength Paysite Security
Message # 126586 209.134.132.9 Fri Feb 20 20:31:12 2004


yeppers.. sounds good to me robbo :)

Voltar (President)
Message # 126585 148.78.245.12 Fri Feb 20 19:37:04 2004


Don`t look for time your already in it make the most of every minute!
Robbo (Editor DFN Weekly)
Message # 126584 68.65.10.74 Fri Feb 20 18:28:35 2004


Evening everyone...

yea codegreen..i have those about every 10 minutes..just not enough time in the day to do them all :)

bazz..it comes in waves sometimes...but yea it's been a trend for a couple of years now for a certian percentage to charge back...the lower quality traffic you feed into the paystes..the higher the charge backs become..

wolfe..what niche do i not cover?
would like to know buddy... :)
it might be in an upcoming npow..if applicable..
as long as it's not teen..i stay away from teen because newbies are to likely to mess up and hurt themselves with the teen and underage issues..a better safe than sorry thing there..

Voltar (President)
Message # 126583 148.78.245.13 Fri Feb 20 18:17:05 2004


Anybody else have this problem? Just so many great opportunities and good ideas floating around out there, and not enough time in the day to get to them...
**********************************************

Nah, we never have any of those kind of problems....

Except when we do, like every other day :)

CG, have you done the work smarter not harder NPOW yet ?

http://www.bobtheknob.com/smarter.html

sarettah (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 126582 66.140.68.101 Fri Feb 20 17:54:56 2004


Hey gang!
Rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated! :)

I've bitten off waaaay too much in both adult and mainstream projects lately. Its really hard to focus on any one thing and make solid progress. Damn!

Anybody else have this problem? Just so many great opportunities and good ideas floating around out there, and not enough time in the day to get to them...

codegreen   chat room spiders
Message # 126581 216.194.193.170 Fri Feb 20 17:42:45 2004


Evening all
I'm Getting A lot of customers charging back this year i had another one today i posted earlier in the week ( about this same topic)for me there is a growing new trend amongst surfers they are trying to be clever,
I Don't know if its worth continuing with my amateur paysites if this trend grows



bazz
Message # 126580 62.211.255.32 Fri Feb 20 17:36:24 2004


They think the temp broke the record here today..whatever it was what they were saying was not correct!
Robbo (Editor DFN Weekly)
Message # 126579 68.65.10.74 Fri Feb 20 17:11:55 2004


70's??? sheesh it's 36 here today and last night it kinda rained. 36 is a heat wave.
mikeyddddd - I think maybe I shouldn't even try to answer that one. lol

Jojasa (Vice President)   spider stuff
Message # 126578 64.135.203.89 Fri Feb 20 15:04:32 2004


Okay so it IS 73 degrees out here! That`s what I get for not venturing outside or looking at the thermometer!
Robbo (Editor DFN Weekly)
Message # 126577 68.65.10.74 Fri Feb 20 14:14:48 2004


Hi all!

Jimmer congrats now there are even more good guys on the team there!

Jojasa I hope that warm weather comes this way for some meltdown!

Mickeyddd maybe he just left before you woke up... what the heck were you up to last night anyhow?

Marq sounds like it`s definitely time to learn about some other niches for you. Aquiring content should`nt be a big hurdle even enough to do a ttt. But this is a great place to learn and ask about new and unfamiliar niches. And I` sure there are alot of us here who could use a feew pointers on selling to the gay niche myself included! I`m know there is a niche you could sell well you are`nt aware of yet! It happens to all of us!

Robbo (Editor DFN Weekly)
Message # 126576 68.65.10.74 Fri Feb 20 14:05:53 2004


Good Afternoon Y'All!

Congrats Jimmer on your new M3 handle.
Congrats Marq! The triples projects are wonderful learning tools. I have done the triple myself and learned lots in the process. Think I will do a few more triples before I progress to the tt, do several tts, and then set out on a ttt. (Small moves, Ellie.)

Jojasa, you should come down here to escape winter. It is supposed to get up to 79 degrees today.

Have been working on a mainstream project this week but still managed to drop in every day to read the board. Figured I'd better stop and say hello so y'all don't forget me. :)

Sweetness (VNWR Community Member)   auto fetish
Message # 126575 204.117.23.17 Fri Feb 20 13:58:41 2004


congrats jimmer!

hello jo, something happened here too - don't know if it's magic - i woke up this morning and my 9 or 10 inches were gone but stumpy was back - musta been a dream :)

mikeyddddd (VNWR Community Member)   go nude
Message # 126574 4.12.160.167 Fri Feb 20 13:28:57 2004


good morning world

magic happened here the last 24 hours and our 9 or 10 inches of snow has turned into a sea of mud. I'm glad it's gone... but the dog sure is making a mess when he comes inside.

Jojasa (Vice President)   spider stuff
Message # 126573 64.135.203.89 Fri Feb 20 12:14:18 2004


Marq,

the interlinking would be best answered by voltar as you can see from the posts I'm still trying to get my ad text right. I've been at this off and on for a long time and have made sales and money but don't feel I'm maximizing my potential for sales so I have the theory and now am working at learning to do it all right from the basics. I know about the Niche thing because Voltar always tells to follow the lesson as he lays it out first. Once I have learned what it has to teach then make my niche fit it... LOL Cause he never covers my niche...

I do know this though limiting you self to one niche looses you sales almost if not worse than not making sure your site works in multiple browsers.

"Knowing is not enough; we must apply.
Willing is not enough we must do"

Wolfe (VNWR Community Member)   learning fetish
Message # 126572 198.252.132.134 Fri Feb 20 12:12:42 2004


afternon everyone...
tag looks good jimmer..and you ahve more mail back too :)

radioguy you have mail back also :)

Marq...look at the rest of my post about it..the interlinking needs changed...the dead pages are important to get out of the loop...and make sure you have something you can money off of on every page..
also check all your exit consoles..i had a couple that did fire on me..but a couple that didn't..
BTW..those 3 are subniches of gay...not niches...gay is a niche...bbw is a niche...lesbian is a niche...each has many subniches...
you see there is a huge filtering effect that takes effect when you use 3 distinctly differnt niches and then subniche them...you lose that advantage by doing only one niche..you lose possible cross over traffic...
whihc can be very profitable..

drop the link agian today and i'll have a look at it agian this evening..

Voltar (President)
Message # 126571 148.78.245.11 Fri Feb 20 11:52:52 2004


Congratulations Jimmer !!!!
sarettah (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 126570 65.16.28.162 Fri Feb 20 11:48:58 2004


Hi everyone!
Just to let you know that I'm now working for M3Server. I've been a very happy customer so I was very happy to join their team.

Jimmer (M3Server.com)
Message # 126569 67.71.152.218 Fri Feb 20 11:10:04 2004


Yes, it seems I misunderstood the main core of ttt, being three diffrent niches, where as I started with a subniche (gay) without even thinking about it, since I only work the gay market it is not a niche for me. Next time it will be diversified (is that a word?).

However, if you imagine for a second that my ttt is made up of three diffrent niches (instead of twinks, videos and amateurs) - would it be a ttt?, is the interlinking correct? That is what I need to know before I make new sites.

Thank you for the lesson. It was a hard one to learn in one way, but I believe this GTT (gaytripletriple) can be profitable for me so it is not wasted time after all.

Marq
Message # 126568 217.210.22.16 Fri Feb 20 11:01:34 2004


Marq,

That is one of the points to the triple and triple triple and TTT. To get you building and practicing other niche ones you don't know by not following the instructions it is like you only turned in one third of the work... keeping with you school anology, instead of opening up your books to read the information that would give you the answer you tried to answer the question with what you already knew...

I'm not trying to sound Harsh are anything, it just seems to me like you never followed to instructions and never learned the lesson so you never built a TTT you just took 27 sites and connected them together...

On the other hand it is still quite and occomplishment to get 27 sites built and have them pass the scrutiny of voltar with the only flaw being found being the mouse over needed... congradulations on that.

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me."

Wolfe (VNWR Community Member)   triple fetish
Message # 126567 198.252.132.134 Fri Feb 20 10:40:24 2004


Hi VNWR,

Hi Marq - Congratulations - the TTT is a huge project and a great achievement :)

Hi Voltar :)

ChristyB (VNWR Community Member)   A Passion 4 Porn
Message # 126566 82.33.44.221 Fri Feb 20 09:07:41 2004


Voltar, Thanks for your input. To explain my niche choices, I went for 3 gay main niches subniched in 9 niches with 3 sites each. Mainly because the gay market is the only market I really know, and have content for. Amateurs - Twinks - Videos is my main 3 niches for this ttt.

Anyway I have made the mouseover changes you talked about, and changed the linking to remove the dead pages (that was a good tip).

If you have time, can you comment on it now, and also send me the secret, if I qualify :-) (feels like high school again, waiting for the results on my test)

Marq
Message # 126565 217.210.22.16 Fri Feb 20 07:09:48 2004


Morning everyone...


Voltar (President)   naked black girls
Message # 126564 148.78.245.11 Fri Feb 20 06:37:47 2004


I think that one was from James Thurber. I always liked him.

Okay I`m tired out and headed to bed..keep it slingin all!

Robbo (Editor DFN Weekly)
Message # 126563 68.65.10.74 Fri Feb 20 04:02:21 2004


Great quote Robbo! LOL!

Speaking of which...reviews are done and so is this porn slinger!

G'Nite VNWR =)

MrYum (VNWR Community Member)   free porn post
Message # 126562 69.3.238.20 Fri Feb 20 01:55:00 2004


Hellooooo

Just getting around the computer and catching up here. I went to see a cousin I have`nt seen in many years and ended up out later than expected. At least I made it home..he was tending bar!

"Early to rise and early to bed makes a man healthy wealthy and dead."

Robbo (Editor DFN Weekly)
Message # 126561 68.65.10.74 Fri Feb 20 00:58:22 2004


Voltar,

I will mention it to the Boss but they have 12 servers of their own and handle the load sharing with some of rotating DNS between servers... the part we are working on is getting the auction to serve live off multiple servers will just take a little experimenting I think. Also they have a contract with their current host that includes that if this host goes down for a certain length of time the host begins paying them... =-)

"If you build it... They will come..."

Wolfe (VNWR Community Member)   Amateur Photo Album
Message # 126560 4.65.96.85 Thu Feb 19 22:59:23 2004


wolfe..you know M3 does offer load balanced servers..having some at thier home base and some in new york so they handle heavy loads by splitting them (more or less)...that might be a solution for you...

Voltar (President)
Message # 126559 148.78.245.12 Thu Feb 19 22:38:16 2004


Good Evening VNWR :)

I hope everyone is having a great day/night/morning/whatever it is in your neighborhood......

We had a wonderful outdoorsy type day today, hit 70 degrees which is so abnormal it's absurd.....
So, I spent a good bit of my day enjoying an early early spring day.... But, supposed to get back down to 40 (which is still high for February around here) so I will be back to working working....


sarettah (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 126558 66.140.68.101 Thu Feb 19 22:16:34 2004


Voltar,

So far it is handling the load well but that spike over 38 load on the server when it starts is dangerous and we havn't even touched on the potential usage level for this yet... We need to start distributing the load between the 12 servers or maybe get a few soup up AMD64bit servers or dual opterons... We haven't even launched the app yet and are delaying it on a solution to the server load. I'm sure when we auction the spider-man #1 comic we will have a huge load...

"Few things are more satisfying than seeing your own children have teenagers of their own."




Wolfe (VNWR Community Member)   my first triple from a year ago
Message # 126557 4.65.96.85 Thu Feb 19 22:06:29 2004


Evening All :)

Hope everyone is having a stellar day!

Given the current level of garbage hitting mail boxes...

OT, you've got mail!

Off to grab some dinner...back later...

Hmmm...where's the girlfriend? hehehe

MrYum (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 126556 69.3.238.20 Thu Feb 19 20:41:31 2004


Hi ChristyB
Voltar (President)
Message # 126555 148.78.245.11 Thu Feb 19 20:29:20 2004


Hi VNWR :)

Jimmer - Nice gallery :) and Morgana's tips are excellent (darn - missed my chance for a world class typo there - lol)

My only other comment is the full size pics are huge - that first pic at 129851 bytes will be a 'dial-up nightmare' & just think of the b/w!

Hi Voltar :)

I love the new google algo xxx

ChristyB (VNWR Community Member)   A Passion 4 Porn
Message # 126554 82.33.44.221 Thu Feb 19 19:58:25 2004


so wolfe..i'm taking it your servers are handling the loads fine then...

Voltar (President)
Message # 126553 148.78.245.13 Thu Feb 19 19:55:17 2004


marq..looking right now...
first thing..go to http://www.voltars.com/vtgp/index.html
and view source..grab that all over mouseover text code from the body tag and use it on your hubs..insert your text there..

i'm on what you call a mother hub but it looks to be really just a hub...a mother hub lists other hubs..and in 3 different niche....which further inspection shows it was a mother hub..so you got that right except for one thing...
you need 3 different niches...not all jsut subniche of the gay niche...
as there is filtering tha takes effect..
that you will need...

you also have dead pages...
by that i mean.. no way to make money off of them..

if you go to this niche hub
http://www.amateurboysnaked.com/amateurs/nichehub.htm
and then go to this site..from there..
http://www.amateurboysnaked.com/amateurs/trailortrash/in-the-trailor/
That page should be a FPA...now it's just a dead page..leading to a fpa...get rid of those dead pages...link directly to a FPA from hubs..then from the FPA's to the entrance pages of the sites...which in turn lead to the main page and then the galleries of the sites..

hope this helps man...you do have some changing of pages to do even to keep it all gay oriented..

if it helps any..on your next one..do ask the three niches here before doing them and i can give you feedback ahead of time..no problem :)







Voltar (President)
Message # 126552 148.78.245.11 Thu Feb 19 18:16:09 2004


evening everyone..


Voltar (President)
Message # 126551 148.78.245.11 Thu Feb 19 17:59:43 2004


Afternoon all.
Well another auction over with no problems. 7 inch widescreen portable DVD player went for $218... We are however considering switching to sun Java to handle the server load better and allow netscape users to bid through java rather than have to use html bid page.

"Everybody has photographic memory... Some just don't have film."


Wolfe (VNWR Community Member)   auction fetish
Message # 126550 198.252.132.134 Thu Feb 19 17:40:02 2004


hello VNWR! :)

i'm usually whizzing past but couldn't help noticing that Jimmer asked for a review. nice template, Jimmer! :)

on top of what Voltar said, i'd also suggest breaking the middle text ad up a little more to make it a quicker read. ie, using <br> after the first sentence. in fact, i'd move the 2nd sentence down to add it to the click text, "CLICK HERE to watch the movie now - Discount Boobs Pass", and i'd changed the font color to lemon to make it stand out from the rest of the page.

stressless profits, everybody! :)

MorganaX
Message # 126549 24.25.227.133 Thu Feb 19 17:23:23 2004


Good day!

Here is a little news tidbit to shed a some light on the lastest search engine shuffles!
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/internet/02/18/google.expands.ap/index.html

Robbo (Editor DFN Weekly)
Message # 126548 68.65.10.74 Thu Feb 19 15:12:25 2004


I got you on the board breaker. I did a few fix ups and will see how I do.
Jimmer (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 126547 67.71.152.218 Thu Feb 19 12:12:04 2004


good morning world

Marq, you finshed a TTT? very cool. :-) that's a lot of work.

Jojasa (Vice President)   spider stuff
Message # 126546 64.135.203.117 Thu Feb 19 12:02:54 2004


no jimmer..it made the post about 3-4 inches to wide for the board because there was no place for it to line wrap it :)

oh, and use sponsor mouseovers on that gallery's rewrites too :)

Voltar (President)
Message # 126545 148.78.245.13 Thu Feb 19 11:59:10 2004


Thanks Voltar, I used an old template and I see the faults in it. Unfortunatly I can't change it after I submitted but I will update it and try it with some recips.
Jimmer
Message # 126544 67.71.152.218 Thu Feb 19 11:35:40 2004


I had to think about what you meant but I should have changed the code to a more generic code without a link. I didn't even think about it as it was a non-adult site, sorry.
Jimmer
Message # 126543 67.71.152.218 Thu Feb 19 11:32:51 2004


wolfe..always glad to help man :)

Voltar (President)
Message # 126542 148.78.245.11 Thu Feb 19 11:17:37 2004


afternoon everyone...

jimmer..i pulled your board breaking post 126536..
:)
also on your gallery..i see several bad things about it...
first get rid of the red around the thumbs..you REALLY DON'T want the attention pulled to them instead of your sponsor links...
next make your sales text in the middle one font larger and underlined so they know it goes to a sponsor..
last..add some sales text around the top banner..

cool Marq..i got an hour set aside this evening to go thru and chek the interlinking of it..it'll take that long to do it right.. :)

Voltar (President)
Message # 126541 148.78.245.11 Thu Feb 19 11:15:48 2004


Marq - When I clicked on the link you posted lastnight that link came up 404....

Old Tom - Triple Triple Triple? I have to get one page past voltar first! Then we'll work our way up page -> Site-> Triple -> Triple Triple -> Triple Triple Triple... at one point many many moons ago I was starting a triple triple but from the past few weeks being back here I'm begining to think they would not have been up to par...

Voltar - Thanx, As always all the help is appreciated.

"If you build it... They will come..."

Wolfe (VNWR Community Member)   Building Fetish
Message # 126540 198.252.132.134 Thu Feb 19 11:13:58 2004


mikeyddddd, works like a charm, thanks.
Jimmer
Message # 126539 67.71.152.218 Thu Feb 19 11:00:43 2004


A triple triple triple? Not many have done that! Most excellent!


Old Tom (Vice President)   Secure Scripts Industrial Strength Paysite Security
Message # 126538 209.134.132.9 Thu Feb 19 10:40:59 2004


jimmer, it works for me - try using href="#" to see if that helps
mikeyddddd (VNWR Community Member)   porn star
Message # 126537 4.12.160.167 Thu Feb 19 10:35:53 2004


I know there is lots of room for improvement, so I'm looking for suggestions on how to increase click thrus on this gallery.
Jimmer (VNWR Community Member)   Please comment
Message # 126535 67.71.152.218 Thu Feb 19 10:18:57 2004


voltar, i'm likin' yahoo right now - got some other gems :)
mikeyddddd (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 126534 4.12.160.167 Thu Feb 19 08:32:44 2004


Thanks for the input, and you got me relly excited about the secret Voltar - hope I pass the test ;-)

Wolfe, where did you find a 404?

Marq
Message # 126533 217.210.22.16 Thu Feb 19 07:31:23 2004


Morning everyone...

Cool Marq!
I'll go thru and check it later today for basic interlinking...and if correct, i'll email you the secret final step of the TTT....and yea there is a secret final step that helps it :)
but only those who complete a TTT get it :)

another cool one mikey!

oh yea wolfe...knock off a couple of lines ont he top one and on the bottom one..you can ONLY have one longer text link on a page or you blow the balance of the page..




Voltar (President)
Message # 126532 148.78.245.13 Thu Feb 19 06:39:57 2004


Marq - The one thing I noticed when I went there that will effect it alot. It was 404... 3 tries...

"If you build it... They will come..."

Wolfe (VNWR Community Member)   facial fetish
Message # 126531 4.65.96.85 Thu Feb 19 05:12:24 2004


Well let's it for me!
Good day everyone!
Suns coming up shortly and I need some sleep.

Happy sales to all. :)

FX   Gay Lords of the Ring
Message # 126530 66.218.247.187 Thu Feb 19 03:50:21 2004


Hi Marq congrats that is an awesome accomplishement! I did notice a slight deviation from teh actuall ttt layout by way of a double fpa though. In fact the first of the two only sald "fpa". It was in the amateur section somewhere. I will leave the rest of the ttt comments to the experts though as I`ve only completed up to tt by hand so far.

I`m off to catch some sleep!

Robbo (Editor DFN Weekly)   After a smoke of course!
Message # 126529 68.65.10.74 Thu Feb 19 03:35:59 2004


Hi!

I have just completed my first complete TTT, a really satisfying feeling. The link is here for the darling spiders to pick up. Thank you Voltar for the tutorials and the triple concept. And everyone else on this board for help and tips. Now off for some posting...

Marq   Free gay amateur, video and twink galleries
Message # 126528 217.210.22.16 Thu Feb 19 03:03:51 2004


Nite MrYum..I`m short to follow!

I just pummeled the search engines so I`ll see what else I can get into before I start falling out!

Robbo (Editor DFN Weekly)
Message # 126527 68.65.10.74 Thu Feb 19 02:41:52 2004


Yeppers Wolfe...just takes time =) After a while, you just kinda start to get a feel of what looks right =)

Yea Robbo...I noticed those things a lot more now that I'm doing reviews...some of the stuff that gets submitted is amazing! And NOT in a good way! LOL!

Well gentlemen, I'm gonna hit the sack...long day and I need my zzzz's...

G'Nite Wolfe, Robbo...VNWR :)

MrYum (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 126526 69.3.238.20 Thu Feb 19 02:38:33 2004


Yeah Wolfe it`s all trial and error but sometimes even the errors can payoff!

Hi MrYum! Just here doing my late night thing..nice catch on the hardcore banner..often a concern nowadays!

"Imagination is more important than knowledge"

Robbo (Editor DFN Weekly)   the sex mall is back
Message # 126525 68.65.10.74 Thu Feb 19 02:25:53 2004


Damn, I'll get it yet practice makes perfect I guess and back to work on that one...

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

Wolfe (VNWR Community Member)   amateur facial fetish
Message # 126524 4.65.96.85 Thu Feb 19 01:42:57 2004


snagged this #1

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=free+nude+pictures&ei=UTF-8&fr=fp-top&n=20&fl=0&x=wrt

mikeyddddd (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 126523 4.12.160.167 Thu Feb 19 01:39:44 2004


Hey there Robbo!

Yep Wolfe...gotta go with Robbo on this one. Text links are still a bit long =/

If it's any consolation...I'm one of the worst for long text links. Voltar once threatened me about it! LOL!

Now, I REALLY try to keep text links down to a couple lines...I TRY! hehe

Also, if this is a site for link lists, you may get a few declines for the banner on that page. A cum facial is considered hardcore by some reviewers...this one included =)

MrYum (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 126522 69.3.238.20 Thu Feb 19 01:18:18 2004


Wolfe I kind of gleazed right by the ads after the first line..not catching me. Try maybe making the text below the top banner a lighter color to draw the eye before it goes for the rest of the page. And the pill text I would probably shorten so I could get it bigger to be notice better maybe a talbe cell bgcolor or something I dunno the text color is bright enough just distracted by that enter button maybe. Okay now I see it is an avs site! That may make better cause to get the surfer to your signup script page but still if you have ads make them pull as much as you can. I might consider paring down the index page to minimum ads in the case of avs. Okay I`ve rambled enough but hope I gave you some ideas.
Robbo (Editor DFN Weekly)
Message # 126521 68.65.10.74 Thu Feb 19 00:54:47 2004


Okay Voltar, not quite sure I'm satisfied on the text but I'm kind of stuck so take a look and tell me what you think. Wife kind of likes it except we are both kind of iffy on the pill text.

Anyone else is welcome to add their comments too.

"Tell a man there are 300 billion stars in the universe, and he'll believe you. Tell him that a bench has wet paint on it, and he'll have to touch it to be sure."

Wolfe (VNWR Community Member)   amateur facial fetish
Message # 126520 4.65.96.85 Thu Feb 19 00:11:47 2004


Evening All :)

Good things on the SE front...competition is always good!

Yep, just finished Trek myself Wolfe...kinda getting used to this new one...not too shabby :)

Back to fpa's...a new ttt almost ready for launch! Here surfer surfer...hehehe

MrYum (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 126519 69.3.238.20 Wed Feb 18 23:31:13 2004


Fall is HERE!
Are you ready for Winter yet?
Is your daily routine cranking out sites to get you thru this fall and into this winter?
Follow the NPOWs and get them surfers changed into members.
Get them keeping your paychecks flowing in.

VBB - a Webmaster's board bot!

The VNWR Board Bot (The Ghost of VNWR)   OT Scripts Industrial Strength
Message # 126518 127.0.0.1 Wed Feb 18 23:20:11 2004


Wow I beat the pop ups and got them all closed!!!

Star trek is done. Finished a couple more chapters of XML. Now lets see what we can do with this other page...

I can see I have made enough of an impression to be on your brain Voltar... Hopefully it is a good one and your not thinking how the hell can I get wolfe to stop asking me questions...LOL

"To err is human -- And to blame it on a computer is even more so."

Wolfe (VNWR Community Member)   pop up fetish
Message # 126517 4.65.96.85 Wed Feb 18 23:20:11 2004


Looks like alot of phony paypal spam coming in today!

Always something interesting happening on the net that`s for sure..even if some of them suck.

Robbo (Editor DFN Weekly)
Message # 126516 68.65.10.74 Wed Feb 18 23:12:17 2004


good one there mikey!

Voltar (President)
Message # 126515 148.78.245.11 Wed Feb 18 22:41:25 2004


Shoot Mickeyddd by the time you get a link copied and pasted they`ll have rewritten thier whole search database the way they are! LOL

I`m just trying hump some of the good old traffic at the moment...the old gallery grind. Trying to spice them up though really!

Robbo (Editor DFN Weekly)
Message # 126514 68.65.10.74 Wed Feb 18 22:07:08 2004


holy shit - i just crapped myself!

i saw significant increase in traffic today - this may be why :)

#1 - http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=free+porn+pics&ei=UTF-8&fr=fp-top&n=20&fl=0&x=wrt

voltar, i need an emergency session of link trade wednesday

mikeyddddd (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 126513 4.12.160.167 Wed Feb 18 22:01:44 2004


yea i meant multispeed not wolfe...
sorry wolfe..

Voltar (President)
Message # 126512 148.78.245.11 Wed Feb 18 21:59:55 2004


Okay now I`m free to do my thing for the night! Well except for a load of dishes.

Voltar I know you meant Multi if it`s any consolation. :) Yeah Multi some good spots available I know Voltar could hook you up with!

These past few months those big search engines have been cooking something up. It smelled liek shit for a while too! hehe They must have rewrote the algorithyms on a larger scale than normal. Good they stay on it we just always hope results fall in our favor!

Speaking of cooking there`s pages to build....or dishes to wash depending how I look at it.

Robbo (Editor DFN Weekly)
Message # 126511 68.65.10.74 Wed Feb 18 21:38:45 2004


yea christyb..it'll take a few days to sort out :)

wolfe that's about as close as it gets, if you had dropped a link ir email i would have had to pull it..
but do drop me a line about ads..i have some in the dfn that might do you well too :)

Voltar (President)
Message # 126510 148.78.245.12 Wed Feb 18 20:51:05 2004


Hi VNWR :)

Thanks Merlin - I got the e-mail & replied :)

Hi Voltar :)
You're dead on about the current google results; the bulk of the listings from www2 & www3 were added to their main index sometime in the last 3 hours and now it looks like they're gradually shuffling in the remaining results and ironing out the creases as they go :)

I've been watching this latest update roll out over the last 3-4 weeks and for the last few days have been biting all my fingernails waiting for the final "blending" (I wasn't sure which set they were going to go with) thankfully the one I was hoping for seems to be the final choice :)

We've about 150 new search terms in top 30 spots and a whole lot of #1 spots... I do believe I'm finally getting the hang of this - lol :)

They'll probably be jiggling around for a few days yet but the biggest "dance step" was the one they took earlier this evening... Now I just have to pray they don't change their minds and undo everything like they did in December!

Seems like it's worked out well for everyone here so Google must be on the right track (at last)!

ChristyB (VNWR Community Member)   adult dreams
Message # 126509 82.33.44.221 Wed Feb 18 20:47:12 2004


BTW if that's spam, just delete it, it's late and I need dinner
Multispeed (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 126508 68.62.237.152 Wed Feb 18 20:46:28 2004


Coding the niche specific stuff is getting me crosseyed, LOL But almost done ;-)
Multispeed (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 126507 68.62.237.152 Wed Feb 18 20:38:40 2004


Ok Kewl, I'm just runnin in circles kinda toget stuff done, Hard to keep up on other things.
Multispeed (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 126506 68.62.237.152 Wed Feb 18 20:34:20 2004


hey multi..you need to see me about some advertising :)

Voltar (President)
Message # 126505 148.78.245.12 Wed Feb 18 20:27:41 2004


If they say they saw it on VNWR they get the gen traffic for 1/2 price Just say you saw it here ;-)
Multispeed (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 126504 68.62.237.152 Wed Feb 18 20:06:08 2004


Hi Voltar :-)
How's the time's treating you? Working on setting gallery traffic and niche traffic up, and fixin to cut the prices back for vnwr People. ;-)

Multispeed (VNWR Community Member)
Message # 126503 68.62.237.152 Wed Feb 18 20:02:46 2004


Hi Multi!

Voltar (President)
Message # 126502 148.78.245.11 Wed Feb 18 19:46:20 2004


Hi Guy's ;-)
Whassup on VNWR of late? Tryin to to take a break here so thought about a drive_by ;-)

Multispeed (VNWR Community Member)   Blowjob fun for all
Message # 126501 68.62.237.152 Wed Feb 18 19:28:28 2004


Bailey,

Yes, I play EverCrack (Ever Quest) and some of my most common groupings for adventure include women 35 to 55... One of my guild mates who plays on a daily base is a 62 year old female law professor. There are alot of women involved in online games and to tell you the truth, Most times I would prefer to group with women as it seems more of them put the time into learning how to play the game and get good at it yet are still forgiving enough when things get all messed up and our characters die... LOL Most of the guys are young punks with attitudes looking for the quickest way to the top or hand outs and couldn't be bothered to put the time in to learn it... and the guys who have most are way too serious...

One of my major projects on the go right now has to do with making money off online gaming and I will be sure to provide you a link when it gets going. =-)

*hint*
One company doing part of my plan just got bought out by one of its only competetors for $10 million...

"If you build it... They will come..."

Wolfe (VNWR Community Member)   online game fetish
Message # 126500 198.252.132.134 Wed Feb 18 18:31:27 2004



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