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I still build for IE, but if I see a sponser code that is screwed up in another browser, I can find something that will work with both. That's the only thing I change for other browsers, and if I can't find anything, then I leave it set up for IE. But then I know what works in all browsers, and I can sort of have that in mind as I build. DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member) Message # 158065 65.191.53.84 Fri Sep 5 11:13:30 2008

That's what I'm worried about. Hanna is just gonna soak the ground real good, and loosen everything up. If Ike comes in right behind her, there's going to be a lot of up-rooted trees. DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member) Message # 158064 65.191.53.84 Fri Sep 5 11:07:11 2008

morning all.. donald..good luck with hanna man..and ike following as well..he's suppose to be the worst one..and following closely in hannas footsteps... and yea, things often are eskew in other broswers....and once you play around with code in it..then reboot..and open with explorer, you might find smoe wierd stuff happening..like many others do..trying to be intelligent and all for you..which just screws up your coding..unseen to you while it does it..so be aware of that..and don't save and overwrite anything with it until you have looked thru its results very carefully.. Voltar (President) Message # 158063 148.78.243.121 Fri Sep 5 00:49:10 2008

Looks like Hana is going to be passing right over my head Saturday. I think someone missunderstood my wish to get blown. :D DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member) Message # 158062 65.191.53.84 Thu Sep 4 18:26:46 2008

Hollering Hot Beds of Hosting Specials Yea Board Bot LIKE! They give me warm diodes! VBB The VNWR Board Bot (The Ghost of VNWR)   OT Scripts Industrial Strength Message # 158061 127.0.0.1 Thu Sep 4 17:22:47 2008

One thing I like, it opens another tab to view source instead of opening notepad. And it has a inspect element tool that I haven't figured out yet, but it looks like it lets you break down different elements of the code in a site. DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member) Message # 158060 65.191.53.84 Thu Sep 4 17:22:47 2008

So far it's a pretty cool browser. Seems to be a bit faster than explorer. But then I haven't maxed out the cache yet. The only problem I see with it is on some of the sites that use xhtml and or java. The menu buttons are off, still usable but don't show up the way they should. I figured I'd get some extra spyware with it and might have to do some work to get rid of it. But I like to see how my sites look in different browsers. It's amazing how even now, different browsers can do wierd things to stuff. DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member) Message # 158059 65.191.53.84 Thu Sep 4 17:10:18 2008

good luck totally getting rid of it if you want to in the future..it's what i hear is one of the weak points of it.. and yea keep up the do's and don'ts..they work :) it is not acceptable to use fish heads for treats either... nor is it acceptable to field dress anything on the front porch while giving out halloween candy! Voltar (President) Message # 158058 148.78.243.122 Thu Sep 4 16:52:24 2008

hehehe.. Hiding in the bushes with a turkey call to scare the trick or treaters as the pass by is not acceptable, funny, but not acceptable. lol I'm taking the Google browser for a test run. Pretty nifty so far, the spell check works in the VNWR post window same way as it works in hotmail. The sites seem to show up pretty much the same as with explorer. I'll let ya'll know what I think after I'm done playing with it awhile. DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member) Message # 158057 65.191.53.84 Thu Sep 4 02:12:59 2008

The VNWR Board Bot (The Ghost of VNWR)   OT Scripts Industrial Strength Message # 158056 127.0.0.1 Thu Sep 4 00:48:44 2008

donald..an antler mask..for those uh-oh moments out hunting...and you have shot the doe instead of a buck :) or a list of do's and don;'t fior the hunter at halloween.. like : deer steaks are not acceptable treats..no matter how fresh they are.. saying trick me, does not mean you get free toilet paper.. you must wear pants on halloween, no matter how you sit on your tree stand.. little kids dressed up as critters, are not there for practice shots or skinning.. etc... morning everyone.. Voltar (President) Message # 158055 148.78.243.122 Thu Sep 4 00:48:44 2008

Yep, I got to figure out what kind of halloween thing I can do. Deer season will be opening around that time. Do something on camo and scent cover up I guess. Yea, halloween deer hunter style. DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member) Message # 158054 65.191.53.84 Wed Sep 3 23:59:15 2008

chris, you got it right man..the next couple of weeks is the time to prepare for halloween! be sure to check out the past projects for some great ideas on the subject.. :) Voltar (President) Message # 158053 148.78.243.121 Wed Sep 3 20:12:14 2008

Hey everyone, The summer is over and all the little brats are going back to school. Hopefully sales will pick up. I'm happy to say this will be my first time prepared for Halloween with the sales pages. :p Chris Message # 158052 142.176.116.79 Wed Sep 3 19:37:51 2008

and good evening too :) Voltar (President) Message # 158051 148.78.243.121 Wed Sep 3 17:19:50 2008

And good afternoon. DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member) Message # 158050 65.191.53.84 Wed Sep 3 09:15:09 2008

morning all.. Voltar (President) Message # 158049 148.78.243.121 Wed Sep 3 02:29:27 2008

evening all.. hehehe donald..now see, you could write a site about it man.. :) Voltar (President) Message # 158048 148.78.243.122 Tue Sep 2 16:57:34 2008

Dang skippy! It slipped! hehehehe DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member) Message # 158047 65.191.53.84 Tue Sep 2 01:31:27 2008

morning all.. donald..accident, and you are sticking to that story...hehehe.. Voltar (President) Message # 158046 148.78.243.121 Tue Sep 2 01:06:07 2008

Yes, often it is. But when that presure buids up sometimes, and she don't duck... well, accidents happen. hehehehe DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member) Message # 158045 65.191.53.84 Mon Sep 1 17:23:55 2008

isn't that always the case :) Voltar (President) Message # 158044 148.78.243.121 Mon Sep 1 11:51:57 2008

It's all fun and games till someone puts an eye out. DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member) Message # 158043 65.191.53.84 Mon Sep 1 09:58:22 2008

well, as i see around the net...gustuv..the hurricane hitting new orleans..has been in a single word..anticlamatic... alot of hype with no bite... which is a good thing..but next time people arn't going to believe it or prepare as they should.. funniest part opf it..the coverage that is.. was 3 newyorkers who opened a food place down there..stayed..and basicly had the attitude..what, it's just some wind...want to be afraid of something, come spend a night in the bronx...this is just a breeze... i like thier attitude on it..broken nose italian american bravado...you got to love it! Voltar (President) Message # 158042 148.78.243.121 Mon Sep 1 07:21:41 2008

we are glad to help Lucy! donald..hahaha...dove season..well just don't aim to shoot her in the eye :) Voltar (President) Message # 158041 148.78.243.121 Mon Sep 1 04:59:21 2008

Well I asked her if she knew what today was. She said yea, labor day. I said yea, that too, but what else? She said she didn't know. I said it's opening day of dove season. She said Oh so you're going hunting. I said sort of. She said what do you mean. I said well my shotgun is ready my little dove and I'm gonna blow a load in you. Talk ta ya'll later. hehehehehe phewt phew!!! HHHHOOOOOOWWWWWWEEEEEEEELLLLLL!!!! DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member)   Beware little dove Message # 158040 65.191.53.84 Mon Sep 1 03:10:44 2008

Ok...thanks guys, I believe we have a plan lol Lucy Message # 158039 86.29.194.8 Mon Sep 1 02:14:05 2008

morning all.. Nickname..hope you get some sleep man..i know it's Labor Day here..so i'm going back to bed and sleeping in for a change myself :) BTW, i looked at your tag url..is that your new own project..i mean..yours..or one you are working on.with for someone else? well donald..call your gal, and tell her you feel like one of those recipt stands in a coffee shop..where they have the big nail sticking up and they jamb the paid cust. ticket over the nail..and that you want her..need her to come over and play the part of the cust. ticket.. or that you have been dreaming of the movie Alien all day..where you are so hard, you shove it into her so hard and deep that it feels like it's going to cum right out of her chest when you cum.. or convince her, that as a guy, you are getting older each and every day..and it's just not right to ever waste a hard on..you only get so many..and you want to make sure they all count with her as they should.. but never let her know the truth man.. you have a hard on..so the first warm thing that sraps it's sellf around it get it...could be a warmed up burrito from the chica down the road, or the fat chicks wonder roll from down on the corner..or even a sloppy slurrpie from the 18 year old nympo that hangs on the 7-11.. just make sure you never let her know :) hehehe.. and don't let her read this..she will think all that crap is true! hehehe.. Voltar (President) Message # 158038 148.78.243.121 Mon Sep 1 01:55:43 2008

Good morning. I was gonna ask if one could make 40k a year that easy why would they even think of selling it. hehehe DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member) Message # 158037 65.191.53.84 Mon Sep 1 01:49:04 2008

extended webmaster, your spam has been pulled.. Voltar (President) Message # 158036 148.78.243.122 Mon Sep 1 01:36:36 2008

Hey Voltar :) It aint pointing atm that's for sure lol I badly need to sleep, 6:10am here, urgh Nickname   Vanity Cash Message # 158035 79.136.44.229 Sun Aug 31 21:09:17 2008

DaaAAaat's right!!! lol DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member) Message # 158033 65.191.53.84 Sun Aug 31 20:05:15 2008

hahaha..if it ain't hanging it's a pointing! hahaha.. Voltar (President) Message # 158032 148.78.243.121 Sun Aug 31 20:01:31 2008

Nothing really hanging, but I'll hook up with somebody to take care of that in the morning. :D DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member) Message # 158031 65.191.53.84 Sun Aug 31 17:57:52 2008

Hi Nickname.. Hi Donald.. how's it hanging guys... Voltar (President) Message # 158030 148.78.243.121 Sun Aug 31 17:03:17 2008

Lucy, Voltar and DonaldZ is right. Don't use any SE submit tool. Actually the bigger Engines will come looking for you without submitting. get some incoming links to the site(s) you want indexed. Nickname   Vanity cash Message # 158029 79.136.44.229 Sun Aug 31 16:52:45 2008

BTW, I really can sepll, just cya'nt tpye. D: I mean :D DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member) Message # 158028 65.191.53.84 Sun Aug 31 15:56:16 2008

Good afternoon. Hello Lucy :D Voltar speaks the tuth, most of the se's have implimented captia security programs now that you have to type in a series of letters and nubers by hand to get submitted. Most of the submit software can't do that for you and it never gets submited. I'm sure somebody has figured out a way around that somewhere, but I wouldn't trust it. DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member) Message # 158027 65.191.53.84 Sun Aug 31 13:54:15 2008

The VNWR Board Bot (The Ghost of VNWR)   OT Scripts Industrial Strength Message # 158026 127.0.0.1 Sun Aug 31 11:46:46 2008

and Lucy you are very welcome... PS do not fall for hype of any submission software company..any of them that claim to get you top ten spots are lieing.. easy to understand..a hndured people..if not a thousand or more..will want the same SE term listings..each of them with the software..only 10 spots..and the hand done and submitted always have the upper hand..it's more pointed.. sorry, but doing work on the web is hard work..and time consuming too.. Voltar (President) Message # 158025 148.78.243.122 Sun Aug 31 11:46:46 2008

Lucy, there are no SE submission software that won't get you banned or penalized..SEs do NOT like them..shortly after they come out..they get found out..and then software written to find those using them and penilizing them.. i highly suggest never using any SE submission software.. But, what you can do is the work smarter not harder method.. create a page online with links directly to the submission pages of the top 10 SE's you want to submit to..then go there(you page with the links) and with your url you want to submit..(do 3 a day..no more..per SE)..and run thru them in mear minutes..10-15 minutes tops... Voltar (President) Message # 158024 148.78.243.122 Sun Aug 31 11:42:52 2008

Ps...apart from the long way ie by hand, can anyone recommend a se submission tool please? I know...prob being lazy...and used to submit by hand, but already workin 7 days lol Thanks Lucy Message # 158023 86.29.202.247 Sun Aug 31 09:18:31 2008

Thanks Voltar Lucy Message # 158022 86.29.202.247 Sun Aug 31 08:59:10 2008

Hi Lucy! well, many things remain the same..in non adult..several people here do non adult primarily as well...so you did come to the right place for help... whatever your product..it'll have things in common with its self..ways it's used, where it's used, where it comes from, etc...all these things are things you can build from to write up series of articles, which you daily submit to online and in print magizines, news papers, and sites... you of course have a byline that links to the site you are creating so the readers can come and buy from you... as well as a link to an area where you keep all your articles online at your own place...these of course you submit to the SEs as well as each other....slowly and surely building a bigger and bigger site as you write more..the more pages you have in the SEs..the better and more traffic you get....this is your basic intrastructure..whihc as you add new products..you rebuild for them as well and interlink..thus building your online empire over time... but it is in principal the same...you need to get people and SE's to link to you..as such you need content...tits and ass does it for the adult realm...information, articles, directories, how to guides, dictionaries, and usage foreums/feedback and awards all become content for the non adult realm.. hopw this helps you some... feel free to ask away for more help or any questions you have :) Voltar (President) Message # 158021 148.78.243.121 Sun Aug 31 06:57:23 2008

Hi Can I ask a question please? Do you guys have any suggestions for marketing a non-food, retail site, (not adult) since advertising and traffic exchange dont appear to be the same as with this business sector...just looking for suggestions... Or to put it another way, we've nearly got a site, we've got stock...and since the best ppl in internet marketing kinda come here...any advice appreciated Thanks Lucy Message # 158020 86.29.202.247 Sun Aug 31 04:42:52 2008

morning everyone... yea donald..for sure man..it usually does :) Voltar (President) Message # 158019 148.78.243.122 Sun Aug 31 04:36:09 2008

Yea, that's true. Still, I stick by what I said, it will do what it thinks you think it aint gonna do. lol DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member) Message # 158018 65.191.53.84 Sat Aug 30 22:23:49 2008

donald, don't forget that some sales stats are delayed as well..sometimes a day..sometimes 10 days even...not everyone is real time on stats.. the delay would be to make sure the credit card transactions go thru and stay thru.. Voltar (President) Message # 158017 148.78.243.121 Sat Aug 30 20:49:46 2008

Traffic simply amazes me. Days my traffic is high are bad days. But day like yesterday when my traffic drops, I pick up sales. I guess website traffic is like a woman, does exactly different than she thinks you think she will do. lol DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member) Message # 158016 65.191.53.84 Sat Aug 30 19:02:22 2008

Good evening :D DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member) Message # 158015 65.191.53.84 Sat Aug 30 16:32:35 2008

afternoon all.. Voltar (President) Message # 158014 148.78.243.121 Sat Aug 30 13:46:40 2008

morning all.. hope your labor day weekend is going off with a good note.. and all that comes with it(including you!).. :) Voltar (President) Message # 158013 148.78.243.122 Sat Aug 30 02:36:39 2008

hehehe..i thought so :) Voltar (President) Message # 158012 148.78.243.121 Fri Aug 29 20:57:37 2008

hehehe, that was a good one. DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member) Message # 158011 65.191.53.84 Fri Aug 29 14:06:35 2008

hehehe..do a google search for snuke..and see what you get there donald..a south park episode.. a nuke in snuke! classic! it's disturbingly funny... you'll like it donald! :) hehehe.. Voltar (President) Message # 158010 148.78.243.122 Fri Aug 29 10:58:02 2008

hahahahaha!!!! MILF for VP!! I love it! Go on with your bad self old man! Sorry, was busting a gut to say it. :D DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member) Message # 158009 65.191.53.84 Fri Aug 29 10:31:28 2008

I thought about doing some with some politicians on them, but that might get me in trouble. hehehehe Of course I guess I could do one of a jackass and one of an elephant. lol DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member) Message # 158008 65.191.53.84 Fri Aug 29 07:53:47 2008

Donald, gald to help man..but really ..you came up woth the idea for which you are now using it..so big kudos! and don't forget targets with cute sayings on the..like "Gun Laws Suck" or "My Other Gun's a Bazooka" or "Critter, the other white meat!" ect.. :) morning all... Voltar (President)   Lonely Women TGP Message # 158007 148.78.243.122 Fri Aug 29 02:59:55 2008

Thanks voltar. Actually what made me think of it was I ran across the pinup npow we did long ago. So was really your idea, I just incorperated it. lol ;) Yea, gonna do a rabbit, raccon, turkey. etc. And some just plain targets. DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member) Message # 158006 65.191.53.84 Thu Aug 28 21:35:56 2008

it was a neat idea donald..now jsut expand it with other critters and targets adn get the full force going..and you'll bank from it for years to come :) Voltar (President) Message # 158005 148.78.243.122 Thu Aug 28 19:34:08 2008

Good morning. :) Dun did Voltar. Dove season opens Monday too. :D I think I thought up a way to get some free offline adertising to. I did an article about hunting with pellet guns last week and it just poped into my head yesterday to get a pic of a squirrel, do a little photo editing and make a printable target to let people download for free. Has my sites wb address printed in bold letters up above the target. :D People they are practicing with will see it, people that pick up the trash will see it, it will get blown around in the wind, and people will pick it up. Soon millions will be flocking to my site and buying their gear from my sponsors. Then I'll be rich and have the money to finance my final plan.... Today the hunters, tomorrow the fisherman, then the campers...Then...The WORLD!!!!! WHAHAHAhahahehehehehe... HHHHOOOOOWWWWWWLLLL!!!!!!!! OK, a little over the top, but I thought it was a neat idea. :D DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member) Message # 158004 65.191.53.84 Thu Aug 28 02:41:31 2008

morning all.. are you ready for this long weekend coming up? get some stuff submited today..so that it may get out there this weekend! Voltar (President) Message # 158003 148.78.243.121 Thu Aug 28 01:06:29 2008

me too :) Voltar (President) Message # 158002 148.78.243.121 Wed Aug 27 20:40:23 2008

Hope it don't take too long. DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member) Message # 158001 65.191.53.84 Wed Aug 27 20:00:39 2008

the same donald..not so hot..but hoping it gets better soon.. evening all.. Voltar (President) Message # 158000 148.78.243.121 Wed Aug 27 19:17:10 2008

Hello all :) How's the mouth doing today Voltar? DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member) Message # 157999 65.191.53.84 Wed Aug 27 14:40:50 2008

morning all.. Voltar (President) Message # 157998 148.78.243.121 Wed Aug 27 00:57:48 2008

Hi Jojasa! Hi Donald! Hi all :) Voltar (President) Message # 157997 148.78.243.121 Tue Aug 26 17:56:42 2008

Hi Voltar :) Hi Jo :) You aint lying Voltar. Would be sweet indeed. DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member) Message # 157996 65.191.53.84 Tue Aug 26 14:12:19 2008

stupid spam pulled good morning :-) Jojasa (Vice President) Message # 157995 96.3.169.126 Tue Aug 26 08:08:33 2008

morning all.. that's cool donald..now if they would do that every time..it would be sweet! Voltar (President) Message # 157993 148.78.243.121 Tue Aug 26 03:39:24 2008

That's got to be some kind of record. I just uploaded that page this evening and it's in gooble just a few hours later. hehehehe DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member) Message # 157992 65.191.53.84 Tue Aug 26 00:01:02 2008

Sounds like the C-section my ex had when my son was born. I was sitting there holding her hand, and heard the clamps and spredders clank, was expecting that. Then rrrriiiippppp.... Won't expecting that. lol DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member) Message # 157991 65.191.53.84 Mon Aug 25 20:51:04 2008

actualy you are helpful donald :) oh the bleeding stopped the first evening..just sore from the hour long cut, pull, and rip session that was done on the one side.. Voltar (President) Message # 157990 148.78.243.122 Mon Aug 25 20:22:06 2008

You should be good to go then, as long as it slows bleeding. I hear a dry socket aint no fun. Don't ya love somebody that comes along and tries to ease your nervousness like I do? hehehe DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member) Message # 157989 65.191.53.84 Mon Aug 25 17:46:04 2008

yeppers..been doing that... Voltar (President) Message # 157988 148.78.243.122 Mon Aug 25 17:40:21 2008

Did they tell you to rinse with salt water? The salt kills bacteria. But then that might hurt like hell, never mind. DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member) Message # 157987 65.191.53.84 Mon Aug 25 17:22:06 2008

still sore...found some pasta from a couple of days ago in one of them..not a good sign... Voltar (President) Message # 157986 148.78.243.122 Mon Aug 25 17:19:09 2008

And good evening all :) Hows the tooth, or lack there of, doing Voltar? Better I hope. DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member)   See spot run for spider food Message # 157985 65.191.53.84 Mon Aug 25 16:42:53 2008

Hello everybody :) DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member) Message # 157984 65.191.53.84 Mon Aug 25 11:28:07 2008

morning all.. thnaks Jojasa! Voltar (President) Message # 157983 148.78.243.122 Mon Aug 25 02:53:25 2008

The VNWR Board Bot (The Ghost of VNWR)   OT Scripts Industrial Strength Message # 157982 127.0.0.1 Sun Aug 24 21:52:08 2008

spam pulled night everyone Jojasa (Vice President) Message # 157981 96.3.169.126 Sun Aug 24 21:52:08 2008

cool OT, enjoy it! oh weather changes every day..one day nice..the next dreadful storms..been like that most this year..oh well ..at least ND football is about to start back up agian...high hopes for a winning season this year too :) Voltar (President) Message # 157979 148.78.243.121 Sun Aug 24 11:40:43 2008

Good morning Voltar! Finally some nice weather here! So it's a good weekend :) Old Tom Message # 157978 69.34.213.201 Sun Aug 24 08:01:33 2008

morning all.. hope everyone having a good one today.. Voltar (President) Message # 157977 148.78.243.121 Sun Aug 24 07:00:37 2008

thanks Jojasa! hope you are getting settled into things..and things are starting to get settled after your big fire! Voltar (President) Message # 157976 148.78.243.122 Sat Aug 23 20:26:08 2008

stupid spammer evening everyone Jojasa (Vice President) Message # 157975 96.3.169.126 Sat Aug 23 18:48:33 2008

You're welcome :) Old Tom Message # 157973 69.34.213.201 Sat Aug 23 16:25:17 2008

thanks OT! Voltar (President) Message # 157972 148.78.243.121 Sat Aug 23 12:16:31 2008

Pulled. Old Tom Message # 157971 69.34.213.201 Sat Aug 23 10:20:38 2008

oh yea, ouch for sure :) Voltar (President) Message # 157969 148.78.243.122 Sat Aug 23 10:09:09 2008

Ouch! DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member) Message # 157968 65.191.53.84 Sat Aug 23 09:56:21 2008

yea, they had to work carefully so not to rip open the sinuses while doing it.. and of course one of the roots had a hook on it's end... Voltar (President) Message # 157967 148.78.243.121 Sat Aug 23 05:49:00 2008

No Voltar I'd already had the wisdom tooth pulled. that last one was the a moler. Sounds like you had a time of it though. DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member) Message # 157966 65.191.53.84 Sat Aug 23 04:11:47 2008

morning all... yea was a bit of a rough night..but thru it now.. :) Voltar (President) Message # 157965 148.78.243.121 Sat Aug 23 04:03:50 2008

donald..the wisdom tooth is the farest back tooth you have..so the last one you got pulled that hurt the worst..was your wisdom toother :) and sadly..one tooth took all of 5 minutes to get out..the other took just over an hour..broke into 3 or so pieces..and some cutting was required.. sadly that's the one the stitches are already out of... and i agree with the maintain theroy there too..good one :) Voltar (President) Message # 157964 148.78.243.121 Fri Aug 22 18:10:20 2008

more spam pulled.. Voltar (President) Message # 157963 148.78.243.121 Fri Aug 22 18:07:37 2008

Yea vics will work. Maintain is the keyword there. take it before the numb wears off and take the next at the right time. Don't be late with it. hehehehe The main thing for me was to keep the pain dulled for the night after they were pulled and through the next day and night. After that there wasn't any pain. But then I never had any cut out, just pulled and stitched. I hope you don't have any pain though. I always heard how painfull getting my wisdom teeth pulled was gonna be. But I took a perkiset soon as I got home and two more that evening and that was it. Didn't feel anymore pain or need them anymore. But when I had the one that the wisdom was behind pulled, I was hurting for a couple days. I think I'm wired wierd anyway cause it take twice as many shots of novicain to numb me, and it usually starts wearing off while he's stitching. Had to fight with him on the last one cause he swore I was just feeling preasure..hell no that was pain. DonaldZ (VNWR Community Member) Message # 157961 65.191.53.84 Fri Aug 22 17:11:43 2008

cool OT! and thanks agian :) well hopefully all the storms are over for you there, at least until the blizzards come this winter... donald..try vicodone, or how ever it's spelled.. sad thing is that one side already had the stitch come out..going to be a not so fun night tonight...or if i take enough vics then i won't even remember it :) Voltar (President) Message # 157960 148.78.243.121 Fri Aug 22 14:36:00 2008

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